ok thats fair enough, I'm not interested in the plight of the team in relation to this. That team that we started the season with basically took us to the play offs last year and by october had effectivly started to take us the other way with a couple of reasonable journeymen additions. Whatever happened on the pitch was down to blackwell carver and wise. We then bought in 6ish players in Jan and nearly escaped. I'm not blaming Bates for the football side other than delaying the sacking of blackwell and appointing Wise month too late.
so that aside more questions... What made Stubbs bid better than Bates? He may have been waiting in a solicitors office but i've heard so much bull from potential takeovers that he could have been buying a house. Yes I clearly did miss something. I wasnt on the list and I live in London and the Standard doesnt tend to major on leeds stories. I am not on of the inner sanctum on here that seem to know everything about everything hence my email enlighten me! As for the finances I dont dispute they are in chaos but again unless you all know something I dont that particular house of cards has ben falling down for a good few years. Do you have concrete proof that Bates as done anything other than get in over his head and pay creditors off left right and centre possibly in not the most efficient way. Also if you want to make astatement like "Morris selling to Bates in the first place" then at least qualify it. yes it looks odd, they sold to bates now the krasner team are all sworn enemies of Bates doing what they can to derail him (and give themselves a publicity boost). Its funny but unless you let us in on what you know about this. There's a lot of passionate anti Bates stuff by people I know and have met on here and that want the best for the club so I dont question anyones' motives but I cant help feeling if Bates had been born and bread in Pudsey he might have a different reputation. >From: "vanillafudge LUFC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: vanillafudge LUFC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "leedslist" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [LU] Be st interests for next season >Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:10:45 +0100 > >----- Original Message ----- > > Morris isnt to be trusted and revie doesnt look like he has the money! > >What are you talking about ? >Revie has proved to KPMG that he has the money, or do you know something >different ? There is little doubt that he has the money but that is not the >same thing as making an offer after limited due dilligence. > > > All the other groups sat by the last time the club as up for sale >because > > it wasnt a good business deal. BAtes didnt and whatever cra we are in >now > > at least he tried!! > >What bit about Stubbs waiting in a solicitors office to sign the papers do >you not understand ? >Asking why Morris sold to Bates would be a very good question. > > > What of this shining knight of morality and hope for us all Norman >Stubbs. > > Betty mentioned him as if his superior bid was creully snatched away by > > bates. I would like to know a little buit more about him because I have > > been shot down in flames before for saying BAtes saved us from the >Unibond > > and groundsahreing with farsley celtic If this isnt te case then I >missed > > something! > >You certainly do appear to be missing something. How is taking us to >relegation one season after reaching the play-off finals anything other >than >taking us along that path to the Unibond ? After all he cant get us there >any faster than he is doing already. If you add together the income streams >over the last 12 months and add to that the increase in debts over that >period then you have the total expenditure by the club for last year. I >wonder if any other club in the division spent any more than that total. >What is the result of all this expenditure ? By any measure it would have >to >be judged as a spectacular failure. Bates is currently trying to save us >from Bates, apparantly. >As for Stubbs then in my view he fatally misjudged things. As far as I can >tell (and this is not just guesswork) he tried to push the former directors >just a little bit too far so that he went beyond what they could accept and >by doing that he let Bates in the door. With hindsight the former board >might now have wished that they had sold to Stubbs after all , as the >promises upon which Bates based his take-over have not been delivered in >full. Perhaps they would have been no worse off with Stubbs after all, but >the club would be in a totally different position. > > >_______________________________________________ >the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators >accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. >Leedslist mailing list >[email protected] >http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >The Leeds List - "where never is heard a discouraging word..." _________________________________________________________________ Play your part in making history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/ _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist The Leeds List - "where never is heard a discouraging word..."
