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>> I see no reason to give less credibility to these statements than to
>> the  reported statementsof Bates on the subject.
>
> But I do.
>
> Did the business relationship between those individuals and Bates end with
> warm hugs all round, or did Krasner and Levi (particularly) feel they got
> shafted by Bates?
>
> So, Krasner and Levi might have personal axes to grind with Bates?
>
> So, actually, they are not impartial views are they?

Nobody claimed that they were impartial. Why on earth would they need or 
have to be impartial ? How does this make Bates any more credible than they 
are ? Unless of course you imply that Bates himself is impartial.
 I am not aware that Krasner was in any way shafted by Bates in any 
financial sense. What are you talking about ? You keep making things up just 
like you keep banging on about moral arguments long after that you been 
shown to be using a nonsense argument that you made up yourself and are now 
demolishing yourself.
What is there in what you  have written to explain why Bates is any more 
credible than the statements of Levi and Krasner apart from your own 
personal and totally illogical preference. On the one hand you base your 
argument on somebody being shafted by Bates (for which there is no evidence 
in Krasners instance) and yet the person who you claim has done the shafting 
(Bates) is at the same time impartial and telling only the truth. Are you 
serious ?
I had better throw in a few Get used to its as you appear to believe that 
they add weight to any argument. We are in division 3 - get used to it. Wake 
up and smell the offshore coffee - get used to it. Its sunday - get used to 
it. Levi doesn't like Bates -get used to it. An MP has raised questions that 
he has every right to raise and has asked for some answers - get used to it. 
Its raining - get used to it.
Its not raining - get used to it. Business is tough - get used to it. Others 
have a right to get tough too - get used to it.
That should impress you with the stunning weight of logic and irrefutable 
argument. Get used to it.
Now I suppose you will make something else up so that you can argue against 
it. Don't bother saying it- I'm used to it..
 


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