> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:leedslist- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Cundell > Sent: 25 July 2007 10:51 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] Public boll*x > > > > > Funny that this stance which was deemed so selfish, shortsighted, > ill > > > > informed, evil etc at the time is now the conciliatory stance! > > > > How so? > > > > > > So you still don't think it is time to want to put all this shit > behind us > and get on with next season and look forward to a proper buyout of the > club? > > Course not. Wonder why. < > > > Here we go the question is too difficult so you change topic. The > question had nothing to do with my opinion and everything to do with > yours. You claim that your stance is conciliatory, I asked why you > thought that. You infer that your stance is no longer considered > selfish, shortsighted and ill informed, I'm > intrigued as to what makes you think that. > Real fans are placing Anti-Bates messages on Billy's statue how does > that support your stance?
Ok, I will spell it out for you. Part 1 -> http://www.wordreference.com/definition/conciliatory With particular reference to "overcoming animosity or hostility". The main issue you (and others) seem to have is Bates being in charge. At the beginning of admin I was saying it would simply easier to let him get his way and focus on the season ahead. You said no, you said Bates was evil, you wanted Bates out regardless of this season. Our stance was to minimise the impact on the team this season, we were morally evil for not caring that the poor creditors only got 1%/8%/13% (take your pick) of their dues. Right now a lot of people who might have wanted Bates out in the beginning and thought a challenge to the cva would be a good idea (after all, the FL lawyer told us we wouldn't even need to be out of admin to get the golden share - so there was nothing to lose apart from a little preseason prep time huh?) can see that this is seriously threatening the club and therefore just want the admin thing over and done with. With Bates in charge. Just so we get the GS and can play football in the football league. I'll summarise for you Initial position = us evil wankers just wanting it all over with vs you anti Bates people. Arguments/hostility on both sides. Current position = us evil wankers still wanting it over with vs anti Bates people willing to accept Bates will own the club, want us to get the GS. Agreement. End of hostility. The hostility was never about who loved Bates and who didn't, it was about the best way forward for the football club. > > > Perhaps you know more about > the machinations of the FL than the rest of us, pity you can't share > that > wisdom with us. < > > You do talk balls. I don't know anymore than any other half intelligent > observer about the way the FL work. I do though imagine that they work > in much the same way as any other monolith, in other words they don't > jump because Mark Humphries says so and they don't shortcut their > procedures because it upsets Mark Humphries hopes for a pre-season! Has > it even crossed your mind to wonder why it took the club so long to > chase the FL? Wouldn't you have been ringing Mawhinney every day? So how do they work Paul? Why haven't they reconvened? Because they wouldn't have done anyway, they are a monolith etc etc, or they might be pissed off at Bates/LUFC/KPMG and its political? Also, how do you know when and how often the club has chased the FL? Do you know someone hasn't rung them every day? Can you see any reason why the club might make a public statement saying they have chased a response other than to just inform us? Maybe they have been chasing in 'private' all the time but got nowhere, so now decided to add a little pressure on them? Why should they need to be chased anyway? Don't they have all the information they asked for already? _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org
