Can any of the vegetarians on the list confirm that many veggies take protein supplements? Or is that not true?

On 28 Jan 2010, at 21:10, Nigel Barber <[email protected]> wrote:

I'm all for restoring our connection with nature. Maybe then we'll stop
swallowing this global warming bullshit. "The sky's falling in!"

The idea of humane killing is a bit of a moral figleaf. I'm sure it's a
great comfort to the deer to know it's being killed with kindness.

I'd love to do some primeval hunting: kill it, skin it, eat it. Dance round
the fire in the nuddy after.


Nigel.



On 28 January 2010 20:28, Damian Walsh <[email protected]> wrote:

Admittedly your not in an abattoir with the gun-thing pressed up to its head, but you're not going to kill a deer with buckshot at more than 12
paces anyway - and only then if you're a good shot. Spears would be
unnecessarily cruel. You're killing the animal for food, not for pleasure.

But the point is - when you eat your venison, you know where it comes from, there's no hypocritical "from the supermarket", you know that the beast had the life that nature (almost) intended (there's no more wolves) and if its death was a little more mechanised than tooth and claw, at least it was quicker. And you deal directly with cleaning up (and cutting up ;) - no
opaque plastic clingfilm to help you ignore what you've done.

A friend of mine raises two or three pigs a year. He gets inordinately attached to them (as I would I'm sure) so his mum has to kill them. Even
so,
he has no moral dilemma - he just knows the moral cost of what he's eating. Unlike, I suspect, most people who for example consume any milk product -
dairy farming truly is horrible.

Damian

On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Nigel Barber <[email protected]>
wrote:

How about spears instead? If you're going to kill something, the least
you
can do is look it in the eye.


Nigel.


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