Coldest Winter in Moscow since early 90's If Ice Cap melts, adding fresh water to ocean could divert Gulf stream meaning northern Europe gets much colder, and then the Ice Cap starts to form again...
Far far to many variables to name just greenhouse gas effect as the cause Also this happened many times before and is cyclical and happened before we were here... Too Many Farting Dinosaurs in the past causing smellier greenhouse gas??? No proof either way, too many people banging on about something they know a little about, but not enough about.. Not saying right or wrong, just think needs more research and less making a decision with only some facts If it is the cause, why not do something about the deforestation of the planet as trees take carbon dioxide in, rather than reducing. If your removal mechanism is gone, the adding less still means you ass as nothing gets removed etc etce tec -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Sent: 30 January 2010 13:57 To: [email protected] Subject: [LU] Sort of LU: Tortuous attempt to explain climate change using LU analogies Nigel Barber --> > The Met Office, with all its equipment, all its staff, all its experience, > is still making educated guesses at tomorrow's weather. What does > that say about our understanding of the atmosphere? Look, we can all predict the near certainty of Colchester getting soundly thrashed this afternoon. (That's the CLIMATE.) We can't predict with any accuracy in which minute Snoddy will first put in a decent cross. (That's the WEATHER.) To claim climate change predictions are worthless because weather forecasts aren't wholly accurate is to fail to understand the difference. Peter Cass --> > If GW is legit explain why last year was only the 2nd hottest year we've > had? And why temps worldwide have decreased 4 out of the last 5 years As Simon Grayson leads us inexorably back to the summit of English football, there will no doubt be a few reversals along the way. Perhaps we'll briefly drop below Charlton. But losing 2 league games out of the last 3 no more makes SG a poor manager than your figures (even if true) say a jot against global warming. Just because we're currently heading towards Summer in the UK doesn't mean tomorrow will necessarily be a little warmer than today, the day after will be a little warmer still, and so on, day after day, until July. Sorry, but your argument is nonsense. Talking of which, Nigel again --> > It's an issue of scale, e.g. the total energy burnt by mankind in a year > is about 10,000 times less than the energy we get from the sun in the > same period. We're really quite insignificant, except in our own minds. It's not the ENERGY we generate that's warming the Earth; it's the GASES we're putting into the atmosphere that slow the escape from Earth of the energy originally from the Sun. Never noticed how much colder it gets on a cloudless night? That's the same effect. Clouds, greenhouse gases - they trap the heat like a blanket. I don't find it very intuitive what a difference a bit of cloud cover makes, but there you go. As for scale and insignificance, there are about 6,700,000,000 of these insignificant little creatures on the planet. Your share of all the world's land - forest, farmland, frozen tundra, whatever - works out at about 149metres x 149 metres by a quick calculation. That's about three times the area of the pitch at ER. Still so sure you can have no effect on your little patch of planet? _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist www.leedslist.net _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist www.leedslist.net
