Nigel Barber -->
> The Met Office, with all its equipment, all its staff, all its experience,
> is still making educated guesses at tomorrow's weather. What does
> that say about our understanding of the atmosphere?

Look, we can all predict the near certainty of Colchester getting soundly 
thrashed this afternoon. (That's the CLIMATE.) We can't predict with any 
accuracy in which minute Snoddy will first put in a decent cross. (That's the 
WEATHER.)

To claim climate change predictions are worthless because weather forecasts 
aren't wholly accurate is to fail to understand the difference.

Peter Cass -->
> If GW is legit explain why last year was only the 2nd hottest year we've
> had? And why temps worldwide have decreased 4 out of the last 5 years

As Simon Grayson leads us inexorably back to the summit of English football, 
there will no doubt be a few reversals along the way. Perhaps we'll briefly 
drop below Charlton. But losing 2 league games out of the last 3 no more makes 
SG a poor manager than your figures (even if true) say a jot against global 
warming.

Just because we're currently heading towards Summer in the UK doesn't mean 
tomorrow will necessarily be a little warmer than today, the day after will be 
a little warmer still, and so on, day after day, until July.

Sorry, but your argument is nonsense.

Talking of which,
Nigel again -->
> It's an issue of scale, e.g. the total energy burnt by mankind in a year
> is about 10,000 times less than the energy we get from the sun in the
> same period. We're really quite insignificant, except in our own minds.

It's not the ENERGY we generate that's warming the Earth; it's the GASES we're 
putting into the atmosphere that slow the escape from Earth of the energy 
originally from the Sun. Never noticed how much colder it gets on a cloudless 
night? That's the same effect. Clouds, greenhouse gases - they trap the heat 
like a blanket. I don't find it very intuitive what a difference a bit of 
cloud cover makes, but there you go.

As for scale and insignificance, there are about 6,700,000,000 of these 
insignificant little creatures on the planet. Your share of all the world's 
land - forest, farmland, frozen tundra, whatever - works out at about 
149metres x 149 metres by a quick calculation. That's about three times the 
area of the pitch at ER. Still so sure you can have no effect on your little 
patch of planet?
 

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