Because Africa is black, the vast majority of Africans are black. And
because by far the majority of people who play, watch and run the game
in Africa are black! The vuvuzela was used by black people at football
stadiums where the majority of supporters are black. It is only very
recently that the vast majority of white South Africans - who are mainly
rugby union supporters - have taken to the vuvuzela. You might think
(delude yourself?) that when you say African you don't mean black, but
African people know that when people say African, they mean black. I
have lived in South Africa a long time, and I can guarantee you that any
black man or woman in this country will tell you the same. It is born
of a long history of colonialism and slavery by - amongst others -
european settlers. You cannot distinguish between black and African in
this context. Pathetic? I don't think so.
But it is your second paragraph that intrigues me most. Would you care
to explain how does football values get diluted by the competition being
given to an African country? Just what are these values you are talking
about? And who gets to decide what these values are?
I have been on the list for a long time, and I don't recall you saying
anything about football values being compromised when the WC was held in
Japan and Korea. Or Germany for that matter. So what do you expect me
to think?
Just to clarify : I am not saying that you are a racist ( I don't know
you well enough to judge), but I am saying that your statement could be
construed as being racist in its content. I certainly picked it up that
way.
Greg
Richard Walker wrote:
Greg,
I said I wouldn't expect anything else from the Africans. So that means
'AFRICANS' I.e the people who play the game, the people who watch the game and
the people who run the game. Why the fuck bring colour into it ? Pathetic!
Just to clarify my point I was implying that football vlues as we know them are
being diluted by giving the biggest competition in the world to countries like
South Africa. Yes it's a world cup but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
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On 13 Jun 2010, at 22:04, Greg Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
Richard Walker wrote:
<snip>
I wouldn't have expected anything else from the Africans .
So, tell us richard, do you include the white africans in this? Or only the black ones?
Sounds like a racist statement to me.
And anyway, if you took the time to look, you'll see lots of supporters in the
colors of other teams blowing on these horns.
The vast majority of the visiting supporters have said that the vuvuzela
actually adds to the atmosphere in the stadium, and you cant walk anywhere
without seeing Brazilians, Mexicans, Africans, Asians and yes, even pale faced
europeans with the horns.
So lets see, the tournament has started, the stadiums are all complete, no
white women have been raped by big black men with huge horns (pun intended), no
young (white) kids have been hacked to death, so what shall we moan about? Oh
yes, the noise from the vuvuzela.
Get over your white self FFS
Greg
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