Greg, you've got some serious whitey guilt complex there.
"He said African. Stone him!"
Nigel.
On 14 June 2010 08:47, Greg Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
> Because Africa is black, the vast majority of Africans are black. And
> because by far the majority of people who play, watch and run the game in
> Africa are black! The vuvuzela was used by black people at football stadiums
> where the majority of supporters are black. It is only very recently that
> the vast majority of white South Africans - who are mainly rugby union
> supporters - have taken to the vuvuzela. You might think (delude yourself?)
> that when you say African you don't mean black, but African people know that
> when people say African, they mean black. I have lived in South Africa a
> long time, and I can guarantee you that any black man or woman in this
> country will tell you the same. It is born of a long history of colonialism
> and slavery by - amongst others - european settlers. You cannot distinguish
> between black and African in this context. Pathetic? I don't think so.
>
> But it is your second paragraph that intrigues me most. Would you care to
> explain how does football values get diluted by the competition being given
> to an African country? Just what are these values you are talking about?
> And who gets to decide what these values are?
>
> I have been on the list for a long time, and I don't recall you saying
> anything about football values being compromised when the WC was held in
> Japan and Korea. Or Germany for that matter. So what do you expect me to
> think?
>
> Just to clarify : I am not saying that you are a racist ( I don't know you
> well enough to judge), but I am saying that your statement could be
> construed as being racist in its content. I certainly picked it up that
> way.
>
> Greg
>
>
> Richard Walker wrote:
>
>> Greg,
>>
>> I said I wouldn't expect anything else from the Africans. So that means
>> 'AFRICANS' I.e the people who play the game, the people who watch the game
>> and the people who run the game. Why the fuck bring colour into it ?
>> Pathetic!
>> Just to clarify my point I was implying that football vlues as we know
>> them are being diluted by giving the biggest competition in the world to
>> countries like South Africa. Yes it's a world cup but that doesn't mean I
>> have to like it.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 13 Jun 2010, at 22:04, Greg Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Richard Walker wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> I wouldn't have expected anything else from the Africans .
>>
>> So, tell us richard, do you include the white africans in this? Or only
>> the black ones?
>>
>> Sounds like a racist statement to me.
>>
>> And anyway, if you took the time to look, you'll see lots of supporters in
>> the colors of other teams blowing on these horns.
>>
>> The vast majority of the visiting supporters have said that the vuvuzela
>> actually adds to the atmosphere in the stadium, and you cant walk anywhere
>> without seeing Brazilians, Mexicans, Africans, Asians and yes, even pale
>> faced europeans with the horns.
>>
>> So lets see, the tournament has started, the stadiums are all complete, no
>> white women have been raped by big black men with huge horns (pun intended),
>> no young (white) kids have been hacked to death, so what shall we moan
>> about? Oh yes, the noise from the vuvuzela.
>>
>> Get over your white self FFS
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> Azanian Whites
>>
>>
>>
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