Are you white?
I stepped in because you went hysterical over a minor criticism.
Nigel.
On 14 June 2010 10:14, Greg Adams <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hence my questions, which I'll repeat here. Is Nigel assuming I am white (
> and have guilt complex) or is he saying I am a black man with a white guilt
> complex?
>
> My guess is he was trying to be funny and maybe stepped in it? But lets
> wait to hear from Nigel.
>
> Greg
>
> Andy Clayton wrote:
>
>> Greg - you seriously need to have a word with yourself. He never mentioned
>> your colour.
>>
>>
>> On 14 June 2010 09:42, Greg Adams <[email protected] <mailto:
>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> What makes you think I'm white? Oh, Right. I am not called Mandla
>> or Vuyolethu so I must be white. Unless you are suggesting I am a
>> black man with a white guilt complex?
>>
>> Your comments says more about you than me inho.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> Nigel Barber wrote:
>>
>> Greg, you've got some serious whitey guilt complex there.
>>
>> "He said African. Stone him!"
>>
>>
>> Nigel.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 14 June 2010 08:47, Greg Adams <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <mailto:[email protected]
>>
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>
>> Because Africa is black, the vast majority of Africans are
>> black.
>> And because by far the majority of people who play, watch
>> and run
>> the game in Africa are black! The vuvuzela was used by black
>> people at football stadiums where the majority of
>> supporters are
>> black. It is only very recently that the vast majority of
>> white
>> South Africans - who are mainly rugby union supporters - have
>> taken to the vuvuzela. You might think (delude yourself?) that
>> when you say African you don't mean black, but African
>> people know
>> that when people say African, they mean black. I have lived in
>> South Africa a long time, and I can guarantee you that any
>> black
>> man or woman in this country will tell you the same. It is
>> born
>> of a long history of colonialism and slavery by - amongst
>> others -
>> european settlers. You cannot distinguish between black and
>> African in this context. Pathetic? I don't think so.
>>
>> But it is your second paragraph that intrigues me most.
>> Would you
>> care to explain how does football values get diluted by the
>> competition being given to an African country? Just what are
>> these values you are talking about? And who gets to decide what
>> these values are?
>>
>> I have been on the list for a long time, and I don't recall you
>> saying anything about football values being compromised
>> when the
>> WC was held in Japan and Korea. Or Germany for that
>> matter. So
>> what do you expect me to think?
>>
>> Just to clarify : I am not saying that you are a racist ( I
>> don't
>> know you well enough to judge), but I am saying that your
>> statement could be construed as being racist in its content. I
>> certainly picked it up that way.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> Richard Walker wrote:
>>
>> Greg,
>>
>> I said I wouldn't expect anything else from the
>> Africans. So
>> that means 'AFRICANS' I.e the people who play the game, the
>> people who watch the game and the people who run the
>> game. Why
>> the fuck bring colour into it ? Pathetic!
>> Just to clarify my point I was implying that football
>> vlues as
>> we know them are being diluted by giving the biggest
>> competition in the world to countries like South
>> Africa. Yes
>> it's a world cup but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 13 Jun 2010, at 22:04, Greg Adams
>> <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <mailto:[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Richard Walker wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> I wouldn't have expected anything else from the Africans .
>>
>> So, tell us richard, do you include the white africans in
>> this? Or only the black ones?
>>
>> Sounds like a racist statement to me.
>>
>> And anyway, if you took the time to look, you'll see
>> lots of
>> supporters in the colors of other teams blowing on
>> these horns.
>>
>> The vast majority of the visiting supporters have said that
>> the vuvuzela actually adds to the atmosphere in the
>> stadium,
>> and you cant walk anywhere without seeing Brazilians,
>> Mexicans, Africans, Asians and yes, even pale faced
>> europeans
>> with the horns.
>>
>> So lets see, the tournament has started, the stadiums
>> are all
>> complete, no white women have been raped by big black
>> men with
>> huge horns (pun intended), no young (white) kids have been
>> hacked to death, so what shall we moan about? Oh yes, the
>> noise from the vuvuzela.
>>
>> Get over your white self FFS
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> Azanian Whites
>>
>>
>>
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