Greg - you seriously need to have a word with yourself. He never mentioned
your colour.
On 14 June 2010 09:42, Greg Adams <[email protected] <mailto:
[email protected]>> wrote:
What makes you think I'm white? Oh, Right. I am not called Mandla
or Vuyolethu so I must be white. Unless you are suggesting I am a
black man with a white guilt complex?
Your comments says more about you than me inho.
Greg
Nigel Barber wrote:
Greg, you've got some serious whitey guilt complex there.
"He said African. Stone him!"
Nigel.
On 14 June 2010 08:47, Greg Adams <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
Because Africa is black, the vast majority of Africans are
black.
And because by far the majority of people who play, watch
and run
the game in Africa are black! The vuvuzela was used by black
people at football stadiums where the majority of
supporters are
black. It is only very recently that the vast majority of
white
South Africans - who are mainly rugby union supporters - have
taken to the vuvuzela. You might think (delude yourself?) that
when you say African you don't mean black, but African
people know
that when people say African, they mean black. I have lived in
South Africa a long time, and I can guarantee you that any
black
man or woman in this country will tell you the same. It is
born
of a long history of colonialism and slavery by - amongst
others -
european settlers. You cannot distinguish between black and
African in this context. Pathetic? I don't think so.
But it is your second paragraph that intrigues me most.
Would you
care to explain how does football values get diluted by the
competition being given to an African country? Just what are
these values you are talking about? And who gets to decide what
these values are?
I have been on the list for a long time, and I don't recall you
saying anything about football values being compromised
when the
WC was held in Japan and Korea. Or Germany for that
matter. So
what do you expect me to think?
Just to clarify : I am not saying that you are a racist ( I
don't
know you well enough to judge), but I am saying that your
statement could be construed as being racist in its content. I
certainly picked it up that way.
Greg
Richard Walker wrote:
Greg,
I said I wouldn't expect anything else from the
Africans. So
that means 'AFRICANS' I.e the people who play the game, the
people who watch the game and the people who run the
game. Why
the fuck bring colour into it ? Pathetic!
Just to clarify my point I was implying that football
vlues as
we know them are being diluted by giving the biggest
competition in the world to countries like South
Africa. Yes
it's a world cup but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
Sent from my iPhone
On 13 Jun 2010, at 22:04, Greg Adams
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>>
wrote:
Richard Walker wrote:
<snip>
I wouldn't have expected anything else from the Africans .
So, tell us richard, do you include the white africans in
this? Or only the black ones?
Sounds like a racist statement to me.
And anyway, if you took the time to look, you'll see
lots of
supporters in the colors of other teams blowing on
these horns.
The vast majority of the visiting supporters have said that
the vuvuzela actually adds to the atmosphere in the
stadium,
and you cant walk anywhere without seeing Brazilians,
Mexicans, Africans, Asians and yes, even pale faced
europeans
with the horns.
So lets see, the tournament has started, the stadiums
are all
complete, no white women have been raped by big black
men with
huge horns (pun intended), no young (white) kids have been
hacked to death, so what shall we moan about? Oh yes, the
noise from the vuvuzela.
Get over your white self FFS
Greg
Azanian Whites
_______________________________________________
the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list
administrators accept no liability for the personal
views and
opinions of contributors.
Leedslist mailing list
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist
and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the
sun as
it sails away
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
<http://www.avg.com> Version:
9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date:
06/11/10 20:35:00
_______________________________________________
the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list
administrators accept no liability for the personal
views and
opinions of contributors.
Leedslist mailing list
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist
and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the
sun as
it sails away
------------------------------------------------------------------------
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
<http://www.avg.com> Version:
9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date:
06/11/10 20:35:00
_______________________________________________
the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list
administrators accept no liability for the personal views and
opinions of contributors.
Leedslist mailing list
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist
and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the sun
as it
sails away
-- blog.mindbrix.co.uk/2010/01/20/zoomable-gallery/
<http://blog.mindbrix.co.uk/2010/01/20/zoomable-gallery/>
<http://blog.mindbrix.co.uk/2010/01/20/zoomable-gallery/>
www.concentrichron.com <http://www.concentrichron.com>
<http://www.concentrichron.com>
--
Mindbrix -- Dream it, draw it, build it, love it
69 Derby Street
Beeston
Nottingham
NG9 2LG
+44 7905 311 352
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
www.mindbrix.co.uk <http://www.mindbrix.co.uk>
<http://www.mindbrix.co.uk>
Skype: ntbarber
twitter.com/mindbrix <http://twitter.com/mindbrix>
<http://twitter.com/mindbrix>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version:
9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2932 - Release Date:
06/11/10 20:35:00
_______________________________________________
the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list
administrators accept no liability for the personal views and
opinions of contributors.
Leedslist mailing list
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist
and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the sun as it
sails away
------------------------------------------------------------------------
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database:
271.1.1/2932 - Release Date: 06/11/10 20:35:00
