I would like better depth control to eliminate the divot problem.  The PC 7539 
lifts up just a tiny bit after you lock it in place.  Do you remember when I 
shared about disabling the lock and using my hand as a poor mans plunge bar?  
It worked slick and I was going to make an improved version with a bar and a 
lock so the router would stay down for as long as I needed it to.  Maybe I'll 
get to it in a few weeks. 

The spring loaded lock on the PC 7539 is the reason plunge bars will not work.  
It would have to be disabled. Otherwise it would be a two handed operation and 
you certainly would not be saving any time or improving accuracy. 

-Tim

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: curt george 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Add on to control depth of cut on the router


  Hello Lewis and Welcome to this topic.
  I just made a comparison to the look of your machine, It  looks very much 
like the WoodRat system is all that I said.
  Others in the past tried the WoodRat plunge bars, and some liked them, I have 
a PorterCable  3 1/2 horse plunge router on my Legacy, I was told that my 
router is not compatible with the plunge bar set up that  WoodRat offers/ or 
offered at that time. (its been a few years since I last looked.)
  My needs for my own Legacy system (I have an old 1000 ex  A 2002  model.) is 
not to gain better control, but more  plunge depth is my goal, So To be fully 
honest with you, I'm not all that sure I would use the set up even if I could 
get my hands on one.
  I thank you for letting me know more about your Router Boss system. Hopefully 
someday I will get a first hand experience on how your system works,but at this 
time, my main interest is in the spindle making element/ornamental turnings.
  I wish you a good day. And Thank you again.
  C.A.G.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Lewis Stepp 
    To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
    Cc: 'CURTIS GEORGE' ; hmatyas0...@gmail.com 
    Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:42 PM
    Subject: RE: Add on to control depth of cut on the router


    Hi Curtis:

     

    We are the manufacturer of Router Boss.  The plunge assist bar for Router 
Boss was designed to be used only with the Router Boss and would require some 
adaptation to be used on the Legacy.  Router Boss looks similar, but is an 
improved design and does not share any parts with WoodRat.  The WoodRat 
PlungeBars are different and were designed to be used either with or 
independent of the WoodRat machine.

     

    We have a supply of WoodRat PlungeBars.  If you would like to try one on 
your Legacy machine then contact us.

     

    Lewis Stepp

    Craftsman Gallery

    www.ChipsFly.com

    513-233-9019

     

    From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE
    Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:13 AM
    To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Add on to control depth of cut on the router

     

    Ive not heard of the Router Boss. but after looking at there web site, it 
looks a lot like the Wood Rat system. at least thay work on the same concept. 
The plunge bar might help get finer control of the plunging movement? 
    Please let me know what you find out.

    C.A.G.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Harvey Matyas <hmatyas0...@gmail.com>
    To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:31:02 -0400 (EDT)
    Subject: Re: Add on to control depth of cut on the router

    I did some more research and the Router Boss has the plunge  bar.  

    On Sep 18, 2012 3:30 AM, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:

    Hello Harvey

    I've not seen the saw trax unit before, that I pretty neat! There have been 
a number of different idea on this forum in the past. In the early years the 
Wood Rat plunge bars were tried, and some people really liked them, I do not 
know of anyone who now uses them.But it was a simple way to get more control 
with out a big expensive, or retor fit on the legacy.

    Mr. Bill Buckley made his own Z axis that fit his old plunge router on his 
Z axis.

    I own a SS overhead router, (the older version mid 80's model) the 
rack-in-pinon movement with sliding dove-tails works well and could be used on 
the legacy but making a new carriage to hold this set up may be a bigger 
problem to fit onto the Legacy ? (but very good idea in concept.)

    I also know that at one time both Tim and Art were talking about making 
there own Z axis's (perhaps they will chime in on this latter.)  but I do not 
know if ether of them went anywhere with the idea ?

    Perhaps its a good  time to bring back the topic? Since Legacy is not 
selling there units (z axis) anymore.

    I have to get to work now. 

    This too is an idea that I think I might like to get into, Making my own 
new Z axis. 

    take care, and thank you for more idea's  I like the saw trax floating 
router table,  I need to take a closer look at that one. ;-)

    Have a good day.

    C.A.G.

     

    ----- Original Message ----- 

      From:Harvey Matyas

      To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

      Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:20 PM

      Subject: Add on to control depth of cut on the router

       

      Has anyone any ideas on what to purchase or build to control the depth of 
the router cut?  Like the Saw Trax Floating Router Table on 
http://www.johngweber.com/jgw/NW/SawTrax/STfrt.htm

      Or the Shop Smith Pin Router 
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/rm_overarmpinrouter.htm  The Shop 
Smith you can control the depth and lock it in place.

       

      I would like the Z axis drive but  I believe the Z axis drive is no 
longer for sale.

      Shop Notes also has an article on how to build a homemade router lift.

       

      I have been looking at the Saw Dust videos by Nick Engler on the router 
by Shop Smith.  Basically, the Legacy could do the same thing as the Shop Smith 
router in several of his videos.  What I like in the Shop Smith router was the 
way you can control the depth of cut.

       

       

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