I have said this before but for those who did not read on this topic in the
past
I solved the fine adjustment with plunging by using a triton router they have a
fast plunge option like most routers but they also have a fine depth adjustment
by turning a knob
very similar to routers mounted to a router table. so to solve the problem of a
divot left in the work after it is finished
i just plunge and machine leaving bit left for a finishing cut then just turn
the adjuster a half turn and take a last fine cut it comes out perfect every
time
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: curt george
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: Add on to control depth of cut on the router
You know I've heard that before. ;-)
After all this is one Old topic. ;-p If you think you can make a better mouse
trap, I for one would love to see it!
Did you look at the Saw Trax router system? Its a piece of junk, but the
router lift just may have some possibilities, if you could figure out a way to
have steps or some way of limiting the down ward movement. Having the router as
a fine adjustment really is not all that bad, if you can get close to the point
you are looking for.first.
And I think making a sliding dovetail slide with a brass gib just may be the
easiest way to keep everything small and tight,while maintaining a solid
structure.
Im dead beat tired. MY WORLD IS GOING TO SHUT DOWN NOW.(its way past my bed
time.)
I hope you have a good night.
Tomorrow there will be more questions that will have to be ansered. ;-)
talk to you latter.
C.A.G.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Krause
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: Add on to control depth of cut on the router
I would like better depth control to eliminate the divot problem. The PC
7539 lifts up just a tiny bit after you lock it in place. Do you remember when
I shared about disabling the lock and using my hand as a poor mans plunge bar?
It worked slick and I was going to make an improved version with a bar and a
lock so the router would stay down for as long as I needed it to. Maybe I'll
get to it in a few weeks.
The spring loaded lock on the PC 7539 is the reason plunge bars will not
work. It would have to be disabled. Otherwise it would be a two handed
operation and you certainly would not be saving any time or improving accuracy.
-Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: curt george
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Add on to control depth of cut on the router
Hello Lewis and Welcome to this topic.
I just made a comparison to the look of your machine, It looks very much
like the WoodRat system is all that I said.
Others in the past tried the WoodRat plunge bars, and some liked them, I
have a PorterCable 3 1/2 horse plunge router on my Legacy, I was told that my
router is not compatible with the plunge bar set up that WoodRat offers/ or
offered at that time. (its been a few years since I last looked.)
My needs for my own Legacy system (I have an old 1000 ex A 2002 model.)
is not to gain better control, but more plunge depth is my goal, So To be
fully honest with you, I'm not all that sure I would use the set up even if I
could get my hands on one.
I thank you for letting me know more about your Router Boss system.
Hopefully someday I will get a first hand experience on how your system
works,but at this time, my main interest is in the spindle making
element/ornamental turnings.
I wish you a good day. And Thank you again.
C.A.G.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lewis Stepp
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Cc: 'CURTIS GEORGE' ; hmatyas0...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Add on to control depth of cut on the router
Hi Curtis:
We are the manufacturer of Router Boss. The plunge assist bar for
Router Boss was designed to be used only with the Router Boss and would require
some adaptation to be used on the Legacy. Router Boss looks similar, but is an
improved design and does not share any parts with WoodRat. The WoodRat
PlungeBars are different and were designed to be used either with or
independent of the WoodRat machine.
We have a supply of WoodRat PlungeBars. If you would like to try one
on your Legacy machine then contact us.
Lewis Stepp
Craftsman Gallery
www.ChipsFly.com
513-233-9019
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:13 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Add on to control depth of cut on the router
Ive not heard of the Router Boss. but after looking at there web site,
it looks a lot like the Wood Rat system. at least thay work on the same
concept. The plunge bar might help get finer control of the plunging movement?
Please let me know what you find out.
C.A.G.
----- Original Message -----
From: Harvey Matyas <hmatyas0...@gmail.com>
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:31:02 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Add on to control depth of cut on the router
I did some more research and the Router Boss has the plunge bar.
On Sep 18, 2012 3:30 AM, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
Hello Harvey
I've not seen the saw trax unit before, that I pretty neat! There have
been a number of different idea on this forum in the past. In the early years
the Wood Rat plunge bars were tried, and some people really liked them, I do
not know of anyone who now uses them.But it was a simple way to get more
control with out a big expensive, or retor fit on the legacy.
Mr. Bill Buckley made his own Z axis that fit his old plunge router on
his Z axis.
I own a SS overhead router, (the older version mid 80's model) the
rack-in-pinon movement with sliding dove-tails works well and could be used on
the legacy but making a new carriage to hold this set up may be a bigger
problem to fit onto the Legacy ? (but very good idea in concept.)
I also know that at one time both Tim and Art were talking about making
there own Z axis's (perhaps they will chime in on this latter.) but I do not
know if ether of them went anywhere with the idea ?
Perhaps its a good time to bring back the topic? Since Legacy is not
selling there units (z axis) anymore.
I have to get to work now.
This too is an idea that I think I might like to get into, Making my
own new Z axis.
take care, and thank you for more idea's I like the saw trax floating
router table, I need to take a closer look at that one. ;-)
Have a good day.
C.A.G.
----- Original Message -----
From:Harvey Matyas
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 9:20 PM
Subject: Add on to control depth of cut on the router
Has anyone any ideas on what to purchase or build to control the
depth of the router cut? Like the Saw Trax Floating Router Table on
http://www.johngweber.com/jgw/NW/SawTrax/STfrt.htm
Or the Shop Smith Pin Router
http://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/rm_overarmpinrouter.htm The Shop
Smith you can control the depth and lock it in place.
I would like the Z axis drive but I believe the Z axis drive is no
longer for sale.
Shop Notes also has an article on how to build a homemade router lift.
I have been looking at the Saw Dust videos by Nick Engler on the
router by Shop Smith. Basically, the Legacy could do the same thing as the
Shop Smith router in several of his videos. What I like in the Shop Smith
router was the way you can control the depth of cut.
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