thanks for the reply tim...yes, i did  see mikes video on crank handle 
indexing...interesting and certainly can spped up a job, especially if you 
are doing multiples...but i'll assume that it works only on certain pitches 
that are coinciding with the lead screw dimensions and threads...can a 4 
1/2" and 7 1/2" pitch work with that method?...now ,i will admit, some of 
this is getting pretty detailed...how different is a 7 1/2" pitch compared 
to an 8" pitch?...but another way to index would eliminate all concerns, 
counting, etc...and cover all the pitches...joe

On Monday, May 12, 2014 4:42:53 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>
>  
> If the work is a 1, 2, or 4 start, the lazy mans version is to notice the 
> starting point of the lead screw and work.  Open the split nut and return 
> the carriage to this position.  Now open the cam clamp and rotate the work 
> 180 degrees or 90 degrees.  This all assumes you are using the drive hubs. 
>  
> I wrote another method that involves noticing the start of the leadscrew  
> and it does rely on the 1/4" increments to a small degree. It turned into a 
> crank handle method that would allow any degree...maybe I did not talk 
> about that one.  It's close to the time Mike posted his video.  I think I 
> posted under "A new way to spiral".  It's been at least two years!
>  
> Are you familiar with crank handle indexing?
>  
> -Tim
>  
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> *From:* 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <javascript:> 
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> 
> *Sent:* Monday, May 12, 2014 11:35 AM
> *Subject:* Re: time for a question or two......
>
> thanks for the reply bill...the issue i might see is what if the bit 
> diameter does not work with the measurements of the lead screw?...i.e. the 
> four revolutions per inch...when we do twist work, we calculate the number 
> of cuts and then choose a bit that will get us the best looking reed or 
> flute as per the number of cuts...the legacy system seems to do the 
> opposite...pick the bit then calculate the number of cuts...i'll post a 
> photo oh the killinger drive set up which allows the rotation of the 
> workpiece while still engaging all the drive gears...joe
>
> On Monday, May 12, 2014 12:17:28 PM UTC-4, aussiman wrote: 
>>
>>  Indexing to the next cut is usually done by undoing the split nut and 
>> sliding the saddle along and reengaging the split nut .the distance moved 
>> is usually the same as the dia of the router bit
>>
>> And the pitch on multiple spirals is in multiples of the router bit 
>>
>> Say a 2 inch barley bit a single start is a 2 inch pitch a 2start is a 4 
>> inch pitch a 3 start is a 6 inch pitch and so on ..
>>
>> I like the 4x gears for very fast pitches i have one or on very large dia 
>> were a very fast pitch looks right.
>>
>> But most people are happy with just the 2x gears i think what do you all 
>> think
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
>>  
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 May 2014 12:22 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* time for a question or two......
>>
>>  
>>  
>> beginning to get acquainted with my machine and right away have a problem 
>> understanding something...when doing spiral work, how do you index to the 
>> next cut when doing multiple cuts?...it seems to me you have to drop the 
>> gears down, index to the next cut and then bring the gears back up...is 
>> this correct?...on my other machine(not a legacy...a killinger) you simply 
>> pulled a pin out from the index plate, rotated the workpiece, pin goes back 
>> into the index plate and you start your next cut...it was quick and 
>> fast...am i missing something here?...and if anyone has an opinion on that 
>> 4X gear set up i would like to hear if they feel it is a useful 
>> accessory...i do not have it, which seems odd, since the two machines i 
>> bought came fully accessorized, or so i thought...thanks in advance for any 
>> assistance...joe biunno
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