Hi Bill 
Thanks for the history lesson, makes a lot of sense and I guess the Japanese 
kept their swords in same place. If you do go to the cemetery you could check 
in and get a spelling lesson with your English language teacher because I think 
you must be straight!
Cheers
Roger

And here is a bit more info on the subject if your interested 
http://www.2pass.co.uk/goodluck.htm#.VOw8mPmsV8E and if your not then store it 
away with your CNC machines for when they become obsolete!

Do we drive on the Left ?

About a quarter of the world drives on the left, and the countries that do are 
mostly old British colonies. 
Japan also drive on the left. 

This strange quirk perplexes the rest of the world; however, there is a 
perfectly goodreason. 

Up to the late 1700's, everybody travelled on the left side of the road because 
it's the sensible option for feudal, violent societies of mostly right-handed 
people. 

Jousting knights with their lances under their right arm naturally passed on 
each other's right, and if you passed a stranger on the road you walked on the 
left to ensure that your protective sword arm was between yourself and him. 

Revolutionary France, however, overturned this practice as part of its sweeping 
social rethink. A change was carried out all over continental Europe by 
Napoleon.The reason it changed under Napoleon was because he was left handed 
his armies had to march on the right so he could keep his sword arm between him 
and any opponent. 

>From then on, any part of the world which was at some time part of the British 
>Empire was thus left hand and any part colonised by the French was right hand. 

In America, the French colonised the southern states (Louisiana for instance) 
and the Canadian east coast (Quebec). The Dutch colonised New York (or New 
Amsterdam). 
The Spanish and Portugese colonised the southern Americas. So The British were 
a minority in shaping the 'traffic'. 

The drive-on-the-right policy was adopted by the USA, which was anxious to cast 
off all remaining links with its British colonial past. 

Once America drove on the right, left-side driving was ultimately doomed.
If you wanted a good reliable vehicle, you bought American, for a period they 
only manufactured right-hand-drive cars. 

>From then on many countries changed out of necessity. 

Today, the EC would like Britain to fall into line with the rest of Europe, but 
this is no longer possible. It would cost billions of pounds to change 
everything round. 

The last European country to convert to driving on the right was Sweden in 
1967. While everyone was getting used to the new system, they paid more 
attention and took more care, resulting in a reduction of the number of road 
accident casualties. 

Since September 2009 Samoa drives on the left instead of the right.
The main reason for this is that they want to use right-hand-drive cars, for 
instance from Japan and New Zealand, which both drive on the left. 

Countries that drive on the LEFT include:- 


      Anguilla
      Antigua & Barbuda
      Australia
      Bahamas
      Bangladesh
      Barbados
      Bermuda
      Bhutan
      Botswana
      British Virgin Islands
      Brunei
      Cayman Islands Channel Islands
      Cyprus
      Dominica
      Eire-Ireland
      England
      Falkland Islands
      Fiji
      Grenada
      Guyana
      Hong Kong
      India
      Indonesia
      Isle of Man Jamaica
      Japan
      Kenya
      Lesotho
      Macau
      Malawi
      Malaysia
      Malta
      Mauritius
      Montserrat
      Mozambique
      Namibia
      Nepal
      New Zealand
      Northern Ireland Pakistan
      Papua New Guinea
      Samoa
      Seychelles
      Scotland
      Singapore
      Solomon Islands
      South Africa
      Sri Lanka
      St Kitts & Nevis
      St. Helena
      St. Lucia
      Surinam
      Swaziland Tanzania
      Thailand
      Tonga
      Trinidad and Tobago
      Turks and Caicos Islands
      Uganda
      US Virgin Islands 
      Zambia
      Zimbabwe
      St. Vincent & Grenadines
      Wales 




From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 5:59 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Locals

Yes 240V not sure of the cycles I have a 240v to 110v step down transformer 
which allows me to be able to use tools from the US when the shipping was 
cheaper and the dollar was closer to ours, it was cheaper to by from you guys 
than here and you can’t always get everything here.

Now when I was a school many years ago I was taught driving on the left side of 
the road dates many hundreds of years back long before cars and started in 
Europe when men walked the roads and walked to the left to keep their right 
hand their sword hand to the middle of the road to defend from others coming 
towards you from the opposite direction because you didn’t know if they were 
friend or foe in those days. so it just progressed to horse then horse and cart 
then finally cars which by then the swords were gone but the habit of always 
keeping to the left stayed.

As to why America changed this I don’t have a clue maybe they were just so 
pissed at England back in the independence days they just did it to despite 
them I don’t know..

Well that’s my history lesson for today if I’m wrong I will have to go find my 
history teacher at whatever cemetery she is in and set her strait,

Bill

     

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2015 10:38 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Locals

 

Roger (and Bill & others),
Of course I know that their motors run like ours do (other than a possible 
voltage and cycle difference).  I was just kidding with him.

Bill:  Is "standard" electricity in a home 220v. @ 50 cycles/Hertz? (US is 
120v. @ 60 cycles)

I would one day love to travel Down Under and see both Australia and New 
Zealand.  As I "speak" - our daughter and her hubby are down there visiting 
friends from college.  Lucky them - since it is about 20° F. here in Virginia 
and 85° F. where they are in Australia.

As for autos - perhaps they were "invented" in Europe - but I do have to wonder 
how "The Empire" managed to decide to drive on the opposite side of the road 
from the rest of the world. (And I guess the US Ed. System was remiss - because 
I don't remember ever having the "why that is" taught to us.)  Can/will you 
enlighten us?  At the risk of being off-topic; Tim may flag you!

As for beer:  You won't find me defending the taste/quality of the 
mass-produced US beer (Bud, Millers, Coors, etc.).  We do have MANY GREAT 
microbreweries that produce some GREAT products.   However, when it comes to 
beer from across the Atlantic - I LOVE the brews from Germany, Belgium, The 
Netherlands, and Denmark.  I'm not a fan of the Stouts from "The Isles" (U.K. 
of GB & NI) but I did enjoy the few visits I had to some Pubs there.
Mac


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  -----Original Message----- 
  From: Roger P 
  Sent: Feb 23, 2015 5:52 PM 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Locals 




  Hi Mac

  I think you will find that quite a few countries drive on the wrong side as 
you put it and given that the motor car was invented in Europe I would suggest 
you guys got it wrong.

   

  Now if you believe that their saws and routers go the wrong way it does not 
say much for the US education system.  You might not be able to buy any tools 
at advantageous prices but at least you could buy that golden amber liquid they 
pass off as beer because it is far superior to Bud & Coors, even then it is not 
as good as English or Scottish beer!

   

  Yes your shows are worth attending but the voltage on the equipment is all 
wrong. I think I would head down under and I might find the first lady I fell 
in love with when I was 10 years old. No quick rethink, maybe not as she would 
be close on 100. Even so I think I would like to go take a look at the country 
and then go on to New Zealand.

   

  Cheers

  Roger

   

  From: MWF 

  Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 10:31 PM

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: RE: Locals

   

  We would Bill - except that since you folks drive on the "wrong" side of the 
road from most of the rest of the world, we understand that all your saws and 
routers turn in the "opposite direction" from ours  up here in the Northern 
Hemisphere. (like the water going down the drain story we hear)
  Therefore, we would be unable to purchase any of the power tools and take 
them home - because they would cause us problems.  ;-)
  We do extend to you an invite to come to America and attend one of the many 
Woodworking or related shows conducted throughout the year.
  Cheers!
  Mac


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    -----Original Message----- 
    From: Bill Bulkeley 
    Sent: Feb 23, 2015 4:16 PM 
    To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
    Subject: RE: Locals 




    Great idea max I think we should all meet here in Australia our woodwork 
show is in October J

    Bill 

     

    From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MAX LATHAM
    Sent: Tuesday, 24 February 2015 5:59 AM
    To: legacy
    Subject: Locals

     

    Does the group ever idintify  local individuals  to share, visit etc?

    I know I intended to visit Art and failed.

    I think there are folks in the Dallas/Ft Worth area having Legacy mill 
interests. 

    Any interest in gathering? Perhaps next woodworking show?

    I would appreciate the opportunity to do so.

     

     

    Curious,

    max

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