​Hi Richard
Engineering standards vary around the world, FACT!

I have found very few American engineers/companies using Lock Washers when 
compared to how we do it in UK. When I was running a production line building 
Small Boat Radar Systems for Raytheon in the UK did I complain about lack of 
washers given the application environment. No I just bought in some spring 
washers. When I ran the production line, again for Raytheon, building power 
supplies for the Customs Computer System at London Airport we found differences 
in engineering standards etc. Did we bitch and moan, no just the stiff British 
upper lip and we got on with it and did it our way.

I will defend Legacy because they came up with the original machine idea, 
developed it over the years and sold plenty of them to lots of happy 
woodworkers. But in life some people think they can improve other peoples 
designs, I have no problem with that but someone has to come up with the 
original ideas and as we all know that is the hard part.   We have seen in this 
group plenty of modifications that have improved on the original design.  That 
is evolution.

By the way I am not claiming that the Legacy machine was the original concept 
of this type of machine because the Sears Router Lathe uses similar principals 
and sold well I believe in the USA.  It was sold in UK by Trend. Strangely 
enough although Trend sold a lot over here most of them were bought, played 
with for a couple of times and then put up on the shelf in the shed and 
forgotten and this I know for a fact having had it confirmed by Trend.  I do 
not believe that has been the case with Legacy machines and is probably the 
reason they retain their selling price.

Cheers
Roger
 


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From: Richard Ellis
Received: 09/08/2017 13:20:36 +01:00
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
CC: rchrd.ell...@gmail.com, Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
Roger 
I do blame legacy whatever they sold it for to fit, is no excuse for extremely 
bad engineering..I am just a lowly person with no degrees or scholarships, but 
I do know a little about machines lathes saws etc.etc.  having made a living 
from them.
I know everything  is made to a price, and for what they charge for the rotary 
table it should have been made better -----just a simple thing to mill flats 
onto spindles
Richard

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 1:05:06 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
​Hi Richard
Don't blame Legacy, they never sold a rotary table for the REVO. That is fact 
confirmed by the Big Dog himself earlier today when I spoke to him. That Rotary 
Table was designed for 900, 1200 etc.
Regards
Roger



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From: Richard Ellis
Received: 09/08/2017 12:08:48 +01:00
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Bill
When using the rotary table for the very first time, the handle came loose, it 
just did not rotate the table, it seemed as if it was only half on. so tried to 
move it nearer to the table---------it would not.
Tried to remove it to find out the problem, it was quite difficult to get off 
owing to the burs on the round shaft. Why no flat for the grub screw to clamp 
on.?????
Next---, went to fit the Universal joint to the spindle drive. did not go on 
far enough---------- the round part of the drive had score marks because of the 
fact that the recess in the Uni joint was not deep enough.I then checked the 
main rod of the Uni joint. Have Legacy never heard of a milling machine and the 
fact that one should not grub screw to round shafts.
As you say it is a great little machine but it seems I am spending far too much 
putting Legacy's shoddy workmanship to rights.
It seems to me over the years they are in too much of a hurry to bring out a 
new model, instead of making the first one properly.
Hence feeling a bit peed off at the moment.
Richard 

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 11:45:10 AM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
Sell the revo what on earth for a great little mill
 
Bill
 
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2017 8:19 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Cc: rchrd....@gmail.com; legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Rotary Table Height
 
Roger
I did not want to alter the Revo, as Martin was promised it back if I decided 
to sell it.
Planing MDF is not a healthy thing to do unless well ventilated. I have been 
Routing a lot of Plywood and it upset me rather badly, a sore place on my face 
and a retching session, have just come back from the Doctor. Even though I was 
wearing a mask the air was polluted for a long long time
Am now thinking of selling the Revo and all the bits that came with it. as 
Martin does not now want it back..
Richard

On Sunday, August 6, 2017 at 5:24:57 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote:
​Hi  Richard
Why not plane the board that is on the rotary table down to your required 
thickness?
Just a suggestion.
Roger & Out!

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From: Richard Ellis
Received: 06/08/2017 17:02:42 +01:00
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Today I fitted my Rotary Table to the Revo. It does not seem to have much 
height for hollowing out bowls  ----only 21/4 "--- The other thing I have found 
,the waste board, it's 3/4 " thick and appears to have been glued on. I can not 
see any woodscrews  holding it,,. Is that normal ?
If I put a thinner waste board I could gain another half inch.
Is there another way of lowering the table ?
Cheers 
Richard
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