But it didn't refuse to work if empty. Rich in LA CA
--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Michele Lewis <cranberryf...@charter.net> wrote: > From: Michele Lewis <cranberryf...@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 5:03 PM > Because it asks for the county and state? > > michele > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John S. Adams" > <oldbr...@hotmail.com> > To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:51 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages > > > > Why have you been "forced" to become a > splitter? I'm a lumper (for > > Censuses, at least) and have just one Master Source > for each US census > > year > > and I use the Sourcewriter. > > > > John S. Adams > > Hermosa Beach, CA > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Michele Lewis" > <cranberryf...@charter.net> > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:09 AM > > To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages > > > >> I used to be a die hard lumper. I only had one > source for the 1900 > >> census > >> (for example). However, with the new Sourcewriter > I have been forced to > >> become a splitter :) :) :) Here is what my source > list looks like... > >> > >> Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880 > >> Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900 > >> Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910 > >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850 > >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 > >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave) > >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870 > >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 > >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880 > (mortality) > >> Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840 > >> Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850 > >> Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860 > >> Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 > >> Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave) > >> Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860 > >> Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870 > >> Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790 > >> Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800 > >> Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810 > >> > >> This of course is just a small snippet. I have > them organized this way > >> so > >> that I can find my master source quickly. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "tamieh" <tam...@sfcn.org> > >> To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM > >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census > Pages > >> > >> > >>> Michele --- I have a question for you. I know > this has been addressed > >>> on > >>> this list before -- so sorry for asking > again..... > >>> > >>> But I too transcribe census records as you do. > How do you list them in > >>> your > >>> master source list? Do you list each census > seperately or put all the > >>> 1900 > >>> Census records under a 1900 census listing? > >>> > >>> Thanks for your input! > >>> Tamie > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Michele Lewis" > <cranberryf...@charter.net> > >>> To: > <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > >>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of > Census Pages > >>> > >>> > >>>>I will tell you another advantage, as I am > transcribing the census I > >>>>really > >>>>pick up on things like when something > isn't right (an age, a > >>>>relationship > >>>>etc) > >>>> > >>>> Here is an example of what it looks like > (this is an 1860)... > >>>> > >>>> Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, > value of real estate $600, born > >>>> in > >>>> GA > >>>> Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in > MS, unable to read or write > >>>> Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS > >>>> Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS > >>>> Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in > MS > >>>> Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS > >>>> Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS > >>>> Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born > in MS > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Or a later census (1930)... > >>>> Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a > farm, male, white, age 42, > >>>> married, married at age 19, able to read > and write, born in MS, both > >>>> parents born in MS, speaks English, > farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule > >>>> Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, > married, married at age 18, > >>>> able > >>>> to read and write, born in MS, both > parents born in MS, speaks English > >>>> Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, > single, able to read and > >>>> write, > >>>> born in MS, both parents born in MS, > speaks, English, log sawyer, > >>>> logging > >>>> [2nd word unreadable] > >>>> Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, > single, able to read and write, > >>>> born in MS, both parents born in MS, > speaks English, laborer, farm > >>>> Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, > single, attended school this > >>>> year, able to read and write, born in MS, > both parents born in MS, > >>>> speaks > >>>> English > >>>> Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, > age 10, single, attended > >>>> school > >>>> this year, able to read and write, born in > MS, both parents born in MS, > >>>> speaks English > >>>> Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, > single, born in MS, both > >>>> parents > >>>> born in MS, speaks English > >>>> Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, > single, born in MS, both parents > >>>> born in MS, speaks English > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I copy the event and add it to each person > listed. When you run a > >>>> report > >>>> it will show the census for every year in > order and it makes for a nice > >>>> progression of what happened in their > life. They start out living with > >>>> their parents, they get married and have a > family of their own, and > >>>> then > >>>> sometimes they move in with their kids in > their later life. You don't > >>>> see > >>>> it as well if you have just attached a > copy (link) of the census. > >>>> > >>>> It does take more time but I think it is > worth the effort. Another > >>>> thing, > >>>> as I am going back through looking at > stuff, it is a lot esier looking > >>>> at > >>>> transcriptions than it is to have to look > at the original image again > >>>> and > >>>> have to re-analyze it. Or course if there > is ever a question I can > >>>> pull > >>>> the census page up easily. > >>>> > >>>> Michele > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "ronald ferguson" > <ronfe...@msn.com> > >>>> To: > <legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com> > >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM > >>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of > Census Pages > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Michele, > >>>> > >>>> I can see that, As I only publish on my > web pages on which I do not > >>>> wish > >>>> to have census images, I just wondered why > transcribe. Although I have > >>>> no > >>>> intention of publishing a book, I very > much doubt if I would wish to > >>>> include transcripts of censuses, sources > certainly. I know some sites > >>>> do > >>>> include pages of census transcripts (which > is the only legal way of > >>>> publishing English/Welsh censuses), but > not my choice, > >>>> > >>>> For example I have recently completed a > multiple descendants report for > >>>> for my brother-in-law whose family I have > been working on, and I never > >>>> dreamt of including census transcripts. In > effect the information is > >>>> already there in the Events - Residence, > Occupation etc. and a > >>>> transcript > >>>> would merely duplicate this. > >>>> > >>>> Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have > their own way of doing > >>>> things. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Ron Ferguson > >>>> > >>>> > _____________________________________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> *New* Improved Interface for > OpenOffice.org Contacts Database > >>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk > >>>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > >>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > >>>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > >>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > >>>> > _____________________________________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------- > >>>>> From: cranberryf...@charter.net > >>>>> To: > LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > >>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images > of Census Pages > >>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500 > >>>>> > >>>>> What Kirsten said :) I too put it in > the event notes along with > >>>>> comments > >>>>> in > >>>>> [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, > the I would want all of the > >>>>> transcribed census info in there > because it would be impratical to > >>>>> print > >>>>> page after page after page of census > pages in the book. > >>>>> > >>>>> michele > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Kirsten Bowman" > >>>>> To: > >>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:39 > AM > >>>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images > of Census Pages > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Ron: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I transcribe the census listings > in source notes because the two main > >>>>>> uses > >>>>>> for my database are for posting at > RootsWeb (where attachments > >>>>>> wouldn't > >>>>>> be > >>>>>> allowed) and for sharing reports > with other researchers (who can > >>>>>> verify > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> images themselves if they wish). I > especially like having the > >>>>>> transcription > >>>>>> as a source note because I can add > comments regarding conflicts, > >>>>>> spelling > >>>>>> variations, etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kirsten > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com > [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on > >>>>>> Behalf Of ronald ferguson > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 > 6:58 PM > >>>>>> To: > legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com > >>>>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital > Images of Census Pages > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kirsten, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just out of interest, why do you > transcribe the census details rather > >>>>>> than > >>>>>> attach the image to your Source > Detail? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This is what I do, not only for > the reason you give but also because > >>>>>> I > >>>>>> have > >>>>>> immediate access to the census > image should I wish to check something > >>>>>> eg > >>>>>> a > >>>>>> questionable age for a person. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ron Ferguson > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _____________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> *New* Improved Interface for > OpenOffice.org Contacts Database > >>>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk > >>>>>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > >>>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > >>>>>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England > See: > >>>>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > >>>>>> > _____________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ---------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> From: vik...@rvi.net > >>>>>>> To: > LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] > Digital Images of Census Pages > >>>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 > 18:41:37 -0800 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dave: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In the interest of > streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or > >>>>>>> digital > >>>>>>> images of things that are > readily available online. This could be > >>>>>> dangerous > >>>>>>> with data found on obscure > sites, but I can't imagine that census > >>>>>>> records > >>>>>>> will someday *not* be > available in some form. I do, however, put a > >>>>>>> full > >>>>>>> transcription of the > family's listing in my source notes. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Kirsten > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: > >>>>>> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >>>>>> Archived messages: > >>>>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > >>>>>> Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >>>>>> To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> No virus found in this incoming > message. > >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: > 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: > >>>>> 02/14/09 > >>>>> 18:01:00 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: > >>>>> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >>>>> Archived messages: > >>>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > >>>>> Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >>>>> To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > _________________________________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all > with the new Windows Live. > >>>> Get > >>>> started! > >>>> http://www.download.live.com/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: > >>>> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >>>> Archived messages: > >>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > >>>> Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >>>> To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: > 270.10.23/1953 - Release Date: > >>>> 02/14/09 > >>>> 18:01:00 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Legacy User Group guidelines: > >>>> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >>>> Archived messages: > >>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > >>>> Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >>>> To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Legacy User Group guidelines: > >>> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >>> Archived messages: > >>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > >>> Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >>> To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 > - Release Date: > >> 02/15/09 > >> 18:09:00 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Legacy User Group guidelines: > >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >> Archived messages: > >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > >> Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >> To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages: > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release > Date: 02/16/09 > 06:55:00 > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp