But it didn't refuse to work if empty.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Michele Lewis <cranberryf...@charter.net> wrote:

> From: Michele Lewis <cranberryf...@charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 5:03 PM
> Because it asks for the county and state?
> 
> michele
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John S. Adams"
> <oldbr...@hotmail.com>
> To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
> 
> 
> > Why have you been "forced" to become a
> splitter?  I'm a lumper (for
> > Censuses, at least) and have just one Master Source
> for each US census 
> > year
> > and I use the Sourcewriter.
> >
> > John S. Adams
> > Hermosa Beach, CA
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Michele Lewis"
> <cranberryf...@charter.net>
> > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:09 AM
> > To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages
> >
> >> I used to be a die hard lumper.  I only had one
> source for the 1900 
> >> census
> >> (for example).  However, with the new Sourcewriter
> I have been forced to
> >> become a splitter :) :) :)  Here is what my source
> list looks like...
> >>
> >> Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1880
> >> Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1900
> >> Census - Federal - GA - Columbia Co - 1910
> >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1850
> >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860
> >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1860 (slave)
> >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1870
> >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880
> >> Census - Federal - GA - Lincoln Co - 1880
> (mortality)
> >> Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1840
> >> Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1850
> >> Census - Federal - MS - Marion Co - 1860
> >> Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850
> >> Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1850 (slave)
> >> Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1860
> >> Census - Federal - MS - Perry Co - 1870
> >> Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1790
> >> Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1800
> >> Census - Federal - NC - Robeson Co - 1810
> >>
> >> This of course is just a small snippet.  I have
> them organized this way 
> >> so
> >> that I can find my master source quickly.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "tamieh" <tam...@sfcn.org>
> >> To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:58 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census
> Pages
> >>
> >>
> >>> Michele --- I have a question for you.  I know
> this has been addressed 
> >>> on
> >>> this list before -- so sorry for asking
> again.....
> >>>
> >>> But I too transcribe census records as you do.
>  How do you list them in
> >>> your
> >>> master source list?  Do you list each census
> seperately or put all the
> >>> 1900
> >>> Census records under a 1900 census listing?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your input!
> >>> Tamie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Michele Lewis"
> <cranberryf...@charter.net>
> >>> To:
> <LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:25 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of
> Census Pages
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I will tell you another advantage, as I am
> transcribing the census I
> >>>>really
> >>>>pick up on things like when something
> isn't right (an age, a 
> >>>>relationship
> >>>>etc)
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is an example of what it looks like
> (this is an 1860)...
> >>>>
> >>>> Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer,
> value of real estate $600, born
> >>>> in
> >>>> GA
> >>>> Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in
> MS, unable to read or write
> >>>> Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS
> >>>> Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS
> >>>> Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in
> MS
> >>>> Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS
> >>>> Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS
> >>>> Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born
> in MS
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Or a later census (1930)...
> >>>> Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a
> farm, male, white, age 42,
> >>>> married, married at age 19, able to read
> and write, born in MS, both
> >>>> parents born in MS, speaks English,
> farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule
> >>>> Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41,
> married, married at age 18,
> >>>> able
> >>>> to read and write, born in MS, both
> parents born in MS, speaks English
> >>>> Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20,
> single, able to read and 
> >>>> write,
> >>>> born in MS, both parents born in MS,
> speaks, English, log sawyer,
> >>>> logging
> >>>> [2nd word unreadable]
> >>>> Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15,
> single, able to read and write,
> >>>> born in MS, both parents born in MS,
> speaks English, laborer, farm
> >>>> Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12,
> single, attended school this
> >>>> year, able to read and write, born in MS,
> both parents born in MS,
> >>>> speaks
> >>>> English
> >>>> Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white,
> age 10, single, attended
> >>>> school
> >>>> this year, able to read and write, born in
> MS, both parents born in MS,
> >>>> speaks English
> >>>> Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7,
> single, born in MS, both 
> >>>> parents
> >>>> born in MS, speaks English
> >>>> Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4,
> single, born in MS, both parents
> >>>> born in MS, speaks English
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I copy the event and add it to each person
> listed.  When you run a
> >>>> report
> >>>> it will show the census for every year in
> order and it makes for a nice
> >>>> progression of what happened in their
> life.  They start out living with
> >>>> their parents, they get married and have a
> family of their own, and 
> >>>> then
> >>>> sometimes they move in with their kids in
> their later life.  You don't
> >>>> see
> >>>> it as well if you have just attached a
> copy (link) of the census.
> >>>>
> >>>> It does take more time but I think it is
> worth the effort.  Another
> >>>> thing,
> >>>> as I am going back through looking at
> stuff, it is a lot esier looking
> >>>> at
> >>>> transcriptions than it is to have to look
> at the original image again
> >>>> and
> >>>> have to re-analyze it.  Or course if there
> is ever a question I can 
> >>>> pull
> >>>> the census page up easily.
> >>>>
> >>>> Michele
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>> From: "ronald ferguson"
> <ronfe...@msn.com>
> >>>> To:
> <legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com>
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM
> >>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of
> Census Pages
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Michele,
> >>>>
> >>>> I can see that, As I only publish on my
> web pages on which I do not 
> >>>> wish
> >>>> to have census images, I just wondered why
> transcribe. Although I have
> >>>> no
> >>>> intention of publishing a book, I very
> much doubt if I would wish to
> >>>> include transcripts of censuses, sources
> certainly. I know some sites 
> >>>> do
> >>>> include pages of census transcripts (which
> is the only legal way of
> >>>> publishing English/Welsh censuses), but
> not my choice,
> >>>>
> >>>> For example I have recently completed a
> multiple descendants report for
> >>>> for my brother-in-law whose family I have
> been working on, and I never
> >>>> dreamt of including census transcripts. In
> effect the information is
> >>>> already there in the Events - Residence,
> Occupation etc. and a
> >>>> transcript
> >>>> would merely duplicate this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have
> their own way of doing 
> >>>> things.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Ron Ferguson
> >>>>
> >>>>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>> From: cranberryf...@charter.net
> >>>>> To:
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images
> of Census Pages
> >>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What Kirsten said :) I too put it in
> the event notes along with
> >>>>> comments
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> [ ]. If I were ever to write a book,
> the I would want all of the
> >>>>> transcribed census info in there
> because it would be impratical to
> >>>>> print
> >>>>> page after page after page of census
> pages in the book.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> michele
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Kirsten Bowman"
> >>>>> To:
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:39
> AM
> >>>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images
> of Census Pages
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ron:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I transcribe the census listings
> in source notes because the two main
> >>>>>> uses
> >>>>>> for my database are for posting at
> RootsWeb (where attachments
> >>>>>> wouldn't
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>> allowed) and for sharing reports
> with other researchers (who can
> >>>>>> verify
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> images themselves if they wish). I
> especially like having the
> >>>>>> transcription
> >>>>>> as a source note because I can add
> comments regarding conflicts,
> >>>>>> spelling
> >>>>>> variations, etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kirsten
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com
> [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
> >>>>>> Behalf Of ronald ferguson
> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009
> 6:58 PM
> >>>>>> To:
> legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >>>>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital
> Images of Census Pages
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kirsten,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just out of interest, why do you
> transcribe the census details rather
> >>>>>> than
> >>>>>> attach the image to your Source
> Detail?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This is what I do, not only for
> the reason you give but also because 
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> immediate access to the census
> image should I wish to check something
> >>>>>> eg
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> questionable age for a person.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ron Ferguson
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> *New* Improved Interface for
> OpenOffice.org Contacts Database
> >>>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> >>>>>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> >>>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> >>>>>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England
> See:
> >>>>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> >>>>>>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>>>> From: vik...@rvi.net
> >>>>>>> To:
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG]
> Digital Images of Census Pages
> >>>>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009
> 18:41:37 -0800
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dave:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In the interest of
> streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or
> >>>>>>> digital
> >>>>>>> images of things that are
> readily available online. This could be
> >>>>>> dangerous
> >>>>>>> with data found on obscure
> sites, but I can't imagine that census
> >>>>>>> records
> >>>>>>> will someday *not* be
> available in some form. I do, however, put a
> >>>>>>> full
> >>>>>>> transcription of the
> family's listing in my source notes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kirsten
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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