Michele, I do underestand what you are saying but I just do it differently. You seem to have a census event, I do not. May I take just the head of the family, Henry Bounds: Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, > married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents > born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule In my records it would appear as: "Henry Bounds" - Vital Event "Name" - only sourced to 1930 census if previously not known. "Head" - not interested and at least on our census not necessarily accurate, since if the husband is away then the wife would be declared as "head" "owns own home" - not on English censuses "lives on farm" - "Residence" Event, sourced to 1930 census "sex" - not sourced "white" - not interested (and would not include it in anyway) "Age" - sourced to 1930 census as "Date of Birth" if not previously known, or comment made if it does not compare with previous 'facts'. "Marriage age" - not on England census and would not include as such, but may enable date of marriage to be calculated which could be sourced to 1930 census. "born in MS" - Vital Event "Place of birth" - only sourced to 1930 census if not previously known. "speaks English" - not on English census, would not use anyhow "farmer" - Occupation Event, sourced to 1930 census "farm, #31 on farm schedule" (I think this is all in one) Location field (no pun intended) for Occupation Event and Residence Event. This would cover everything I would wish to extract but in a different way to yourself
Ron Ferguson _____________________________________________________________________ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _____________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------- > From: cranberryf...@charter.net > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:25:06 -0500 > > I will tell you another advantage, as I am transcribing the census I really > pick up on things like when something isn't right (an age, a relationship > etc) > > Here is an example of what it looks like (this is an 1860)... > > Soloman Garaway, age 32, male, farmer, value of real estate $600, born in GA > Elizabeth Garaway, age 33, female, born in MS, unable to read or write > Sarah Garaway, age 11, female, born in MS > Benjamin Garaway, age 8, male, born in MS > Clarissa Garaway, age 6, female, born in MS > Mary Garaway, age 4, female, born in MS > Matilda Garaway, age 2, female, born in MS > Leucretia Garaway, age 5/12, female, born in MS > > > Or a later census (1930)... > Henry Bounds, head, owns home, lives on a farm, male, white, age 42, > married, married at age 19, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents > born in MS, speaks English, farmer, farm, #31 on farm schedule > Adia Bounds, wife, female, white, age 41, married, married at age 18, able > to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English > Virgil Bounds, son, male, white, age 20, single, able to read and write, > born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks, English, log sawyer, logging > [2nd word unreadable] > Cull Bounds, son, male, white, age 15, single, able to read and write, born > in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English, laborer, farm > Ernest Bounds, son, male, white, age 12, single, attended school this year, > able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, speaks English > Corzella Bounds, daughter, female, white, age 10, single, attended school > this year, able to read and write, born in MS, both parents born in MS, > speaks English > Harvey Bounds, son, male, white, age 7, single, born in MS, both parents > born in MS, speaks English > Elias Bounds, son, male, white, age 4, single, born in MS, both parents born > in MS, speaks English > > > I copy the event and add it to each person listed. When you run a report it > will show the census for every year in order and it makes for a nice > progression of what happened in their life. They start out living with > their parents, they get married and have a family of their own, and then > sometimes they move in with their kids in their later life. You don't see > it as well if you have just attached a copy (link) of the census. > > It does take more time but I think it is worth the effort. Another thing, > as I am going back through looking at stuff, it is a lot esier looking at > transcriptions than it is to have to look at the original image again and > have to re-analyze it. Or course if there is ever a question I can pull the > census page up easily. > > Michele > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ronald ferguson" > To: > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:07 AM > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages > > > > > Michele, > > I can see that, As I only publish on my web pages on which I do not wish to > have census images, I just wondered why transcribe. Although I have no > intention of publishing a book, I very much doubt if I would wish to include > transcripts of censuses, sources certainly. I know some sites do include > pages of census transcripts (which is the only legal way of publishing > English/Welsh censuses), but not my choice, > > For example I have recently completed a multiple descendants report for for > my brother-in-law whose family I have been working on, and I never dreamt of > including census transcripts. In effect the information is already there in > the Events - Residence, Occupation etc. and a transcript would merely > duplicate this. > > Only my opinion, btw, everybody will have their own way of doing things. > > > Ron Ferguson > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database > http://www.fergys.co.uk > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: cranberryf...@charter.net >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages >> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:40:31 -0500 >> >> What Kirsten said :) I too put it in the event notes along with comments >> in >> [ ]. If I were ever to write a book, the I would want all of the >> transcribed census info in there because it would be impratical to print >> page after page after page of census pages in the book. >> >> michele >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kirsten Bowman" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:39 AM >> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages >> >> >>> Ron: >>> >>> I transcribe the census listings in source notes because the two main >>> uses >>> for my database are for posting at RootsWeb (where attachments wouldn't >>> be >>> allowed) and for sharing reports with other researchers (who can verify >>> the >>> images themselves if they wish). I especially like having the >>> transcription >>> as a source note because I can add comments regarding conflicts, spelling >>> variations, etc. >>> >>> Kirsten >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on >>> Behalf Of ronald ferguson >>> Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:58 PM >>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages >>> >>> >>> >>> Kirsten, >>> >>> Just out of interest, why do you transcribe the census details rather >>> than >>> attach the image to your Source Detail? >>> >>> This is what I do, not only for the reason you give but also because I >>> have >>> immediate access to the census image should I wish to check something eg >>> a >>> questionable age for a person. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk >>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: >>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>>> From: vik...@rvi.net >>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Digital Images of Census Pages >>>> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:41:37 -0800 >>>> >>>> Dave: >>>> >>>> In the interest of streamlining, I've stopped saving paper and/or >>>> digital >>>> images of things that are readily available online. This could be >>> dangerous >>>> with data found on obscure sites, but I can't imagine that census >>>> records >>>> will someday *not* be available in some form. I do, however, put a full >>>> transcription of the family's listing in my source notes. >>>> >>>> Kirsten >>> > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. 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