Valerie, The Picture icon does indeed use a Legacy viewer. I can now see why Legacy provides that viewer, and recommends that we use it (by attaching with the picture icon) as that provides all users with a common way of viewing pictures and support doesn't have to worry about what programs and what file associations are on individual computers. My observation about the different viewers used when a picture was attached using the picture icon vs. the file icon was just that, an observation. I wasn't challenging that, saying that was a 'bad thing', yelling at Microsoft, Legacy, or anyone else.
However, I believe from my testing that there is no Legacy viewer for any of the other three icons. You stated "By using the first three icons that Legacy has provided us, we know that it will be "handled correctly" within Legacy and given the proper file attributes. Selecting the "File" icon and attaching your file will tell Legacy to utilize your computer's program that is associated for that file type." I read this (correct me if I am wrong) that Legacy has it's own programs for Picture, Sound, and Video, and that only 'File' uses my own computer's programs according to it's unique file associations. I believe "Sound" and "Video" function as 'File' does, not like the 'Picture' icon does. I attached two sound files (different types) and one video file using the sound and video icons respectively. When I opened them in the picture gallery, they opened in Windows Media player and Itunes according to the file associations on my system, not any Legacy viewer. Summary: You are correct in recommending that the "Picture icon" be used to attach picture type files such as jpg, gif, tiff, bmp etc. Although they will display if you attach them with the "File icon" as long as the proper programs are available and proper file associations set up, that's unnecessary complication. I suspect there are also benefits to explicitly marking them as pictures when reports and charts are being produced. The same statement cannot be made for any non picture file, attached with any of the Sound, Video, or File buttons. For all these file types, Legacy will not use it's own viewer and will use whatever program is set in the user's file associations. Therefore, to view sound, video, and text one must always have a third party program, and also have file type to program associations correctly set. Paul Gray -----Original Message----- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Laskowski Sent: August-19-09 4:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adding DOCUMENTS to an individuals record Paul, Of course Legacy uses two different viewers! Let's not throw common sense out the window here. The issue is about file association types; which can be different on everyone's computer. The bottom line is that if you use the "Picture" icon, then Legacy will utilize it's built in functions to allow you to edit and manipulate it. This is a good thing, for most people may not have picture editing software. If you choose to use the "File" icon, then it will be associated with whatever your personal computer's file type assocations are. By using the first three icons that Legacy has provided us, we know that it will be "handled correctly" within Legacy and given the proper file attributes. Selecting the "File" icon and attaching your file will tell Legacy to utilize your computer's program that is associated for that file type. Legacy does not need to store icons for all of the world's software just because you attached a file to an individual. Plus, that would inflate the Legacy files and waste much of our own disk space. Hence, the generic icon is displayed. Be GRATEFUL that you even have this option. I don't see you yelling at Microsoft because Excel can't edit a picture. You can, however, "insert a picture" into a spreadsheet and have it print. If you double click on the picture, it will bring up the software on your computer associated for that picture file type. The same applies here. Valerie -----Original Message----- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:02 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adding DOCUMENTS to an individuals record Paul, Notwithstanding what works in your current set up, it does not necessarily mean that it will work for others. The Legacy advice is that Photos, images, pictures anything with image extentions, jpg, jpeg, tif, tiff gif, png, bmp etc. should go in the Pictures folder, sounds go in sounds, video in Video and text including pdf, txt, rtf, doc etc. go in Files. Any other way is asking for trouble. Ron Ferguson _____________________________________________________________________ Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _____________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ > From: grayp...@telus.net > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adding DOCUMENTS to an individuals record > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:53:24 -0600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, there is a bit more to this. I tested in my database attaching > JPG's as both pictures and files. Bottom line, I could view both BUT > Legacy used different viewers in each. > > > > > > > > I took and individual who had NO attachments. > > > > > > > > I attached four JPGS in the picture gallery. Two I attached with the > "Picture Icon", Two with the "File Icon". > > > > > > > > When I opened (by double click in Picture Gallery) the two I attached > using the Picture icon, they opened but used a "Legacy Viewer" > called Zoom in the title bar. When I opened the two attached using the file > icon, they opened in Windows Photo Gallery which is the default for > JPG's on my computer. > > > > > > > > However, in the picture gallery itself (where I see all four > thumbnails at once), I see a mini picture of the ones I attached using > the picture icon, and a generic icon for the ones I attached using the > file icon. > > > > > > > > This isn't the way I thought it worked, but I'm a new user. I thought > that one file type (e.g. JPG) would always open with the > same program. Apparently not. Interestingly, the system uses what I > would call > the 'proper viewer" i.e. whatever is set up for JPGS as the default > program when you attach using the File icon, not when you use the > picture icon. > > > > > > > > In Summary: > > > > > > > > Can view JPG's attached with either Icon > > > > When attached with Picture Icon, thumbnail shows in picture gallery, > opens with a Legacy specific viewer > > > > When attached with File icon, no thumbnail in Picture Gallery, opens > with my default program (Windows Photo Gallery) for JPG's > > > > > > > > I know this doesn't solve Ruth's problem, but it is more than just > which icon is used to attach. > > > > > > > > Paul Gray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com > [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Valerie Laskowski > > Sent: August-19-09 1:17 PM > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adding DOCUMENTS to an individuals record > > > > > > > > > > > > Ruth, > > > > The > documentation is correct. You need to read more slowly and carefully. > > > > The "In > addition" means exactly what it states. If you have other documents > that are not picture files, sound files, or video files; then you must USE the > "File" icon. The "File" icon would mean documents > such as PDF, MS Word, WordPerfect, a VISIO drawing, an Excel Chart, etc... > > > > "Adding Other Documents > > > > In addition to pictures, sound, and video files, you can also attach any other type of document to a > person (or to an event, source, or location). These documents can be word > processing files, PDF files, spreadsheets, web pages - whatever you like. > Just as with sound and video files, these other documents cannot be included on > reports, but you can load and view them as you would any other file. > Double-clicking on a word processor document starts your word processor and > displays the file. The same happens for any other type of file. > Whatever program is associated with that file type will be loaded to display > the file. To add a document, click the FILE button and specify the drive > and folder where the file can be found." > > > > Just seems to me this FILE function of Legacy isn't working as per the > documentation! > > > > Valerie > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] > On Behalf Of gcr...@juno.com > > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:13 PM > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding DOCUMENTS to an individuals record > > > > Loading TIF's or JPG's from the PICTURE icon makes no difference. They still > won't open. Why will a TIF file display properly in PHOTOs along with a JPG > file for the same individual when added from the PHOTOS icon? > > > > Besides, this advice is contrary to the Legacy HELP documentation on the > subject of ADD - Documents..... > > > > "Adding Other Documents > > > > In addition to pictures, sound, and video files, you can also attached any > other type of document to a person (or to an event, source, or location). > These documents can be word processing files, PDF files, spreadsheets, web > pages - whatever you like. Just as with sound and video files, these > other documents cannot be included on reports, but you can load and view them > as you would any other file. Double-clicking on a word processor document > starts your word processor and displays the file. The same happens for > any other type of file. Whatever program is associated with that file > type will be loaded to display the file. To add a document, click the > FILE button and specify the drive and folder where the file can be found." > > > > Just seems to me this FILE function of Legacy isn't working as per the > documentation! > > > > gc > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: Dennis M. Kowallek > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding DOCUMENTS to an individuals record > > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:23:57 -0400 > > > > On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:51:14 GMT, "gcr...@juno.com" > > > wrote: > > > >>I used FILE, the right-most of the 4 ICONs of PICTURE, SOUND VIDEO, FILE. > > > > For JPG, TIFF, etc. I think you are supposed to use PICTURE. Try that. > > > > -- > > > > Dennis Kowallek (LTools) > > http://zippersoftware.com/ltools > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Happy 10-Year Anniversary-get free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
