Jim, et al, I agree with John (and many others) obviously since I advocated for the split early in this thread and in previous threads. And I am not hallucinogenic.
I am a person born from an unknown father and a known mother, therefore correct recording of this fact is important to me. This man never married my mother but had a relationship and it is important to distinguish between the two. I am glad to know there is a suggestion to fix this (it's been so long ago I might have suggested it but I don't keep a log of my suggestions). The main issue is this has been suggested and many users have replied that they agree. This is such a common occurrence that it demands a correct method of recording. Unfortunately there seems to be a reluctance to differentiate between relationships and marriages in Legacy which I feel is regrettable. Larry On Apr 7, 2015 12:45 PM, "Jim Terry/Support" <jimte...@legacyusers.com> wrote: > John, > > You seem to have a lot of anxiety over this issue, to the point of having > hallucinations. If you want to submit this as a suggestion for an > enhancement to the Legacy program, please visit > http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp. We are always seeking new > ways > to make Legacy better. > > Jim, > Legacy Technical Support > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > From: "John Lisle" <leg...@johnlisle.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 12:38 PM > > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Any Way to Mark a PERSON as Never Married? > > > > JIm, > > > > Sure... I do it all the time, but I was not talking about marriage > status. > > > > I was talking about the checkbox "This person was never married and > > has no children" which is the subject of this thread. > > > > I know that a user can decide that the word "married" in that > > checkbox can mean whatever they want it to mean, but I hallucinate > > that most users assume it means just what it says "married" - formal > > ceremony with "binding" contract assumption. > > > > But, with the checkbox being a combination of two attributes and no > > way to identify what means married, the use of the checkbox will be, > > in my opinion, inconsistent or ambiguous between various users. > > > > john. > > > > At 02:39 PM 4/7/2015, Jim Terry/Support wrote: > > >John, > > > > > >Legacy users are free to create whatever Marriage Status they want and > > >create whatever wording options they want to handle the majority of the > > >most bizarre, unlikely relationships or non-relationships they can > think > > >about. > > > > > >Jim > > >Legacy Technical Support > > > > > > > > >-------- Original Message -------- > > > > From: "John Lisle" <leg...@johnlisle.com> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 11:30 AM > > > > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com > > > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Any Way to Mark a PERSON as Never Married? > > > > > > > > Jim, > > > > > > > > I agree but... > > > > > > > > I think that this most people think of this attribute of "Never > > > > Married" as being no formal marriage event, not no relationships. > > > > > > > > Further, even were it to mean No Relationships, unless we have > > > > perfect knowledge of the person's life, we would have to say "No > > > > KNOWN Relationships" and, of course, that attribute could also mean > > > > no known marriages. > > > > > > > > More fuel to why those attributes need to be split. (I still think > > > > those attributes need to be combines with Child Status items as > > > > described earlier.) > > > > > > > > If a man was a sperm donor, he likely has children although he may > > > > not know who they are. And, unless one of those children later > > > > determines his/her biological paternity, that passing on of genes > > > > will never be known. > > > > > > > > Of course, there is the other case of surrogate motherhood. It can > > > > either be based on placing fertilized egg in surrogate or it could > be > > > > that surrogate mother provides the egg. > > > > > > > > Did you know that 3 of Mitt Romney's son Tagg's children were from a > > > > surrogate mother? > > > > > > > > Modern science and 21st century laws are making relationships much > > > > more complex... :-) > > > > > > > > john. > > > > > > > > At 11:10 AM 4/7/2015, Jim Terry/Support wrote: > > > > >In a case of in vitro fertilization there is a father and he is > Unknown. > > >We > > > > >haven't started cloning people yet, so for now there is still a > > >biological > > > > >father and biological mother. > > > > > > > > > >Jim > > > > >Legacy Technical Support > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-------- Original Message -------- > > > > > > From: "MikeFry" <emjay...@gmail.com> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 2:50 AM > > > > > > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Any Way to Mark a PERSON as Never > Married? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2015/04/07 00:19 AM, Kelly Booth wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a in vitro fertilization in my tree - she never married > but > > >I > > > > >can't check > > > > > > > that box because it includes "no children" and that is not the > > >case. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's still a "relationship". 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