I will not get involved in the "correct way" of sourcing, that is a personal 
choice.   But i do see a major distinction between an image and a 
transcription. 
An image is a picture of an actual item as it exists to the 
photographer/scanner.    

But a transcription is someone's interpretation of the actual item.  A 
transcription is subject to clerical errors, missing information accidentally 
or intentional, and or personal conclusions and/or editing. 
An image is closer to a Primary Source depending on many factors.A 
transcription is definitely Secondary Source at best. 


-------- Original message --------From: BARTON LEWIS 
<bartonle...@optonline.net> Date: 7/14/17  10:28 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Legacy 
User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] citing an 
online obituary 
Hi Cathy,

Thank you for your reply.  However, I did take a look at the existing templates 
(I thought my post reflected that).  I also may have provided "TMI" (I tend to 
do this), was not sufficiently succinct and/or asked obvious questions.  For 
example, in the template I ended up selecting, "Newspapers>Online images 
(issued by unrelated content provider)," I asked if "issued" means "published 
on this website," which I assume it does.  I also nitpicked about the use of 
"online image;" I assume that is equivalent to a transcription although it 
seems somewhat imprecise.  The distinction is perhaps not important.  

The output for my obituary is:

"Andrew Kulesa," Grand Rapids Press, 23 Aug 2014; database, MLive Media Group 
(http://obits.mlive.com/obituaries/grandrapids/obituary.aspx?pid=172223191 : 
accessed 14 Jul 2017), Obituaries.

I think this is good.  The only gripe I have is that, although the template 
provides a field for "State," this does not appear in the output.  I think the 
way around this is to insert the state's abbreviation in parentheses between 
"Rapids" and "Press."



On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 02:13 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote:

Barton,

There may not be any - take a look.

Cathy



Barton Lewis wrote:



So here’s a source citation problem that I would be interested in 

hearing feedback about: I found an obituary for someone that provides 

his mother’s maiden name, an important link to a DNA match that I 

haven’t been able to obtain otherwise. The obituary is on a website 

for a company that calls itself “[X] Media Group” (the “X” is 

replacing its actual name). The obit came up when Googling the man’s 

mother’s married name, and appears on a page that has the following 

inscription at top: “Obituaries & Guestbooks Provided by Funeral 

Directors & Families from the Grand Rapids Press.” X Media Group, on 

its About Us page states it is “an audience-first venture encompassing 

content, sales, and ma
rketing professionals that care deeply about 

digital marketing.” Which Master Source template should I use? The 

obituary is not issued by the publisher, if “issued” is the same as 

published on the website in question, correct? The templates which 

include “issued by unrelated content provider” would seem to be the 

correct ones, but they all include the categorization “online image.” 

Is there a difference between an “online image” and a transcription of 

the obituary? Is the former an actual digital image of the obituary as 

it appeared in the newspaper? If so, is it appropriate to use this 

template since the obituary is a transcription?



Finally, why is there a separate category for some of the templates 

that includes “periodicals” in front of the rest of the descriptors, 

e.g. “Newspapers>online archives>issued by the publisher” vs. 

“Periodicals>Newspapers>online archives&
gt;issued by the publisher”; 

what’s the difference between the two?



Thanks,



Barton

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