Barton With this citation it is important to include Michigan since there is a Grand Rapids in either Illinois or Indiana. Shirley
On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 12:05 PM, BARTON LEWIS <bartonle...@optonline.net> wrote: > I agree. The only 2 options Legacy includes for online obituaries that > are "issued by unrelated content provider" have the descriptor "online > images" in them. I'm not sure if there is any material effect on the > citation by using the template for an obituary that has been transcribed. > The output I provided appears to be clear and sufficient, so I guess that's > what counts. Still, it might be nice if the template were styled > "Newspapers>Online images or transcriptions (issued by unrelated content > provider" (my change in bold). > > > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:18 AM, bobstree2 wrote: > > I will not get involved in the "correct way" of sourcing, that is a > personal choice. But i do see a major distinction between an image and a > transcription. > > An image is a picture of* an actual item* as it exists to the > photographer/scanner. > > > But a transcription is *someone's interpretation of the actual item.* A > transcription is subject to clerical errors, missing information > accidentally or intentional, and or personal conclusions and/or editing. > > An image is closer to a Primary Source depending on many factors. > A transcription is definitely Secondary Source at best. > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: BARTON LEWIS <bartonle...@optonline.net> > Date: 7/14/17 10:28 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] citing an online obituary > > Hi Cathy, > > Thank you for your reply. However, I did take a look at the existing > templates (I thought my post reflected that). I also may have provided > "TMI" (I tend to do this), was not sufficiently succinct and/or asked > obvious questions. For example, in the template I ended up selecting, > "Newspapers>Online images (issued by unrelated content provider)," I asked > if "issued" means "published on this website," which I assume it does. I > also nitpicked about the use of "online image;" I assume that is equivalent > to a transcription although it seems somewhat imprecise. The distinction > is perhaps not important. > > The output for my obituary is: > > "Andrew Kulesa," Grand Rapids Press, 23 Aug 2014; database, MLive Media > Group (http://obits.mlive.com/obituaries/grandrapids/ > obituary.aspx?pid=172223191 : accessed 14 Jul 2017), Obituaries. > > I think this is good. The only gripe I have is that, although the > template provides a field for "State," this does not appear in the output. > I think the way around this is to insert the state's abbreviation in > parentheses between "Rapids" and "Press." > > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 02:13 AM, Cathy Pinner wrote: > > Barton, > There may not be any - take a look. > Cathy > > Barton Lewis wrote: > > > So here’s a source citation problem that I would be interested in > hearing feedback about: I found an obituary for someone that provides > his mother’s maiden name, an important link to a DNA match that I > haven’t been able to obtain otherwise. The obituary is on a website > for a company that calls itself “[X] Media Group” (the “X” is > replacing its actual name). The obit came up when Googling the man’s > mother’s married name, and appears on a page that has the following > inscription at top: “Obituaries & Guestbooks Provided by Funeral > Directors & Families from the Grand Rapids Press.” X Media Group, on > its About Us page states it is “an audience-first venture encompassing > content, sales, and ma rketing professionals that care deeply about > digital marketing.” Which Master Source template should I use? The > obituary is not issued by the publisher, if “issued” is the same as > published on the website in question, correct? The templates which > include “issued by unrelated content provider” would seem to be the > correct ones, but they all include the categorization “online image.” > Is there a difference between an “online image” and a transcription of > the obituary? Is the former an actual digital image of the obituary as > it appeared in the newspaper? If so, is it appropriate to use this > template since the obituary is a transcription? > > Finally, why is there a separate category for some of the templates > that includes “periodicals” in front of the rest of the descriptors, > e.g. “Newspapers>online archives>issued by the publisher” vs. > “Periodicals>Newspapers>online archives& gt;issued by the publisher”; > what’s the difference between the two? > > Thanks, > > Barton > > ------------------------------ > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/ > mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > ------------------------------ > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/ > mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/ > mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > >
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