Guido,

Life is so confusing! 

Leaving  people to spell  their names how they wish is probably a good thing
(not taking away their civil liberties) but dealing with the sorting
sequences is probably something that the EU (European Union) should/could
take on board to get some consistency.

Thanks for you clarification however.

Peter Holmes

Western Australia

[HOLMES (Witham on the Hill, Pinchbeck, Donington and then Leicestershire),
DAVISON (Donington), CRAGG (Leicestershire & Nottinghamshire), RYLOTT &
WITHERINGTON (Gosberton, Gosberton Clough)] [Villages are in Lincolnshire]


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guido Leeten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2006 06:12
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Capitalization, Irish and Italian Surnames
> 
> Peter,
> 
> That is correct for the Netherlands, but here in Flanders, the dutch
> speaking part of Belgium, we sort starting from the beginning: all the
> prefixes first then the name and ending at possibel sufixes: Van De Ven,
Van
> de Ven, van de Ven, vande Ven, Vande Ven, Vande Ven Jr, Vande Ven Sr.
> The prefixes indicate normally an origin, a "ven" is a moor, so they
> originated in the moors.
> Other names came from first names: Jan, his son: Jans (son), grandson:
> Jansen or Janssen, next Jansens, or Peter... Peters, Petersen, Petersens,
> Pieter, Pieters, Pietersen, Pietersens; Frans, Fransen; Stevens, etc
> Names got also translated: "van Hout", is "du Bois" in french...
> 
> PS: I put my answers now to: [email protected] and
CC:
> to the personal addres, because the first ones I never see in the
> communications.

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