Nick, Personally i think your attribution is fine. I was even pointing people to your map attribution methods to use as an case study until i found them in the list here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution That's where all the confusion has come in, and personally i don't think this impractical attribution problem will be solved until ODbL is introduced (hopefully). I guess until that time people will have different views on what is 'proper' and what is not.
Sam > >From: Nick Black <nickbla...@gmail.com> >To: Licensing and other legal discussions. <legal-talk@openstreetmap.org> >Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2009 13:24:20 >Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proper attribution > >Hi Sam and list, > > >Could you point out where CloudMade is not attributing OSM properly and we'll >fix it right away. Our maps API puts: > > >"© 2009 CloudMade - Map data CCBYSA 2009 OpenStreetMap.org contributors" > > >Our FAQ says: > > >"If you use our maps via the Web Maps Lite API a copyright and attribution >notice will appear in the bottom right hand corner of the window which says "© >2009 CloudMade - Map data CCBYSA 2009 OpenStreetMap.org contributors - Terms >of Use". You must show this attribution whenever you access our map tiles." > > >For mobile use: > > >"You should include the following information somewhere in the application >where it can be easily accessed, such as a "Help" or "About" screen or on a >splash screen: "© 2009 CloudMade - Map data CCBYSA 2009 OpenStreetMap.org >contributors - Terms of Use"." > > >http://cloudmade.com/faq#license > > >Our contacts page does not include attribution on the map, but has it under >the maps, as we judged them too small to be attributed: > > >http://cloudmade.com/contact > > >The OSM wiki says that CloudMade are violating because our client sites and >our own site says:: > > >"Whitehouse site says "Data (c) OpenStreetMap, rendering (c) CloudMade". >CloudMade site says both "Map data (c) OpenStreetMap contributors" and >separately "Map data CCBYSA OpenStreetMap contributors"." >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution > > >But the OSM wiki also says that the correct attribution is: > > >"If you are using OpenStreetMap data only, we request that your credit reads >at least "Map data (c) OpenStreetMap (and) contributors, CC-BY-SA"." >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F > > >Depending how precise you want to be, we say "Data" rather than "Map Data". > > >I think the Foundation need to publish some clear guidelines about this. >>From the point of view of a company who is trying very hard to get it right >and to make it easy for people building on our platform to get it right, I can >vouch that attribution issues are confusing. > > >We want to do the right thing and we're even happy to help define what the >right thing is, but there needs to be more clarity. > > >-- >Nick >n...@cloudmade.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Sam Larsen <samlars...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >Hi all, >> >>>>I am looking into the proper attribution of OSM in a tiled web mapping >>>>scenario. I know the guidelines on attribution can be found on the wiki - >>>>and i have read them. >>>>There is also the list of non-conforming sites: >>>>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution >>>>Does anyone think, we should have a list of 'conforming' sites - as the >>>>CloudMade maps and even the main www.openstreetmap.org are listed as not >>>>having proper attribution. >>>> >>I think it would be useful to have at least one example of conforming >>attribution (even though i know the attribution will change in the near >>future anyway) for people to use as a case study / reference. Of course if >>people were to be referencing this website, it would have to be absolutely >>correct and stay unchanged while it is used as a reference. >> >>>>Maybe a site could be mocked-up within the wiki somewhere? >> >>>>I haven't contributed to the wiki before - maybe this could be my calling - >>>>if anyone thinks it is needed. >> >> >> >>>>Sam Larsen >>>>Web GIS Specialist >>>>York St, Cambridge, UK, CB1 2PY >>>>M: +44 (0)794 433 7455 >> >> >> >> >> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>legal-talk mailing list >>legal-talk@openstreetmap.org >>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk >> > > >-- >-- >Nick Black >twitter.com/nick_b > _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
