On 12/19/2010 02:40 PM, David Groom wrote:
For the record

1) I accept that the Microsoft Licence[1] to use Bing imagery is an
early version, and we have been told it will be revised
2) I suspect that Microsoft do intend that Bing imagery may be used to
update OSM

Sure.

And I accept that it would be bad if the wording of anything interfered with that intent.

However:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Myers" <r...@robmyers.org>

"Any updates you make to the OpenStreetMap map via the
Application (even if not published to third parties) must be
contributed back to openstreetmaps.org."

Which is NOT the same as stating "Microsoft have directly stated that
Bing imagery may be used to update OSM".

[Nicking Grant's link]

http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2010/12/01/bing-maps-aerial-imagery-in-openstreetmap.aspx

"Microsoft is pleased to announce the royalty-free use of the Bing Maps Imagery Editor API, allowing the Open Street Map community to use Bing Maps imagery via the API as a backdrop to your OSM map editors."

The "OSM community" can use Bing maps imagery in OSM map editors, and that data "must be contributed back to" OSM.

I agree that Microsoft have not made a statement using the form of words that you are seeking. If this is causing uncertainty that is bad, and my experience is that redundant statements in licences can save a lot of argument.

But also I agree with Frederik that the current statements are good enough to be going on with. They contain permission to use the imagery, and *require* that the results be contributed to OSM.

- Rob.

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