A simple answer, Nestor:I didn't say anything like that. I just said both
ideologies are not identical and Marxists primarily deal with class not nation.
They support the struggle of oppressed nations not because they believe thatz on
the basis of nationalism the crucial problems of the masses and the working
class in particular could be solved but because being with the working class
(andthe oppressed masses) in their demoicratic struggles is a precondition for
eventually leading them in the class struggle. No Berlin Wall here. Therefore
the national sentiment of the Cuban people in opposition to (US-)imperialism is
welcomed, but in itself it's not class based (though it can be to a certain
extent). Both sentiments should be taken seriously but not mistaken one for
another.
Best, A.H.
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Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky schrieb:
> En relación a [L-I] Cuba,
> el 28 Aug 00, a las 10:30, A.Wosni dijo:
>
> > on Cuba:
> >
> > 1. while it is important to know how much popular backing the
> > Castro-regime still has, this in itself does not prove any
> > 'socislist'and/or 'workers state' character of the regime, of course.
> [...]
> > Things would be so easy if the bad guys were always disliked. I
> > somewhere read that the Russian zar Ivan the Cruel was much liked by
> > the people (at least they all broke out in tears when he had died).If
> > Castro still has the support of the majority of the people (specially
> > the working class) this may be more because of nationalist than of
> > class sentiment.
>
> Is the following an unfaithful translation?
>
> (a) there is a Berlin Wall between both "sentiments"
> (b) class sentiments are worthy of support, and nationalist
> sentiments are unworthy of support.
>
> Consequently, movements which are based on "nationalist sentiments"
> are reactionary.
>
> As a corollary, people in the Third World, who have this stubborn
> tendency to be nationalists, are reactionary.
>
> Final conclusion: let us try to explain people out of their mistake.
>
> In the end, the result of all this is either deserved and navel-
> gazing loneliness for the Left, or tremendous defeats (such as in
> Bolivia, 1972) for the masses.
>
> Anton, I am seriously afraid that you do not have the slightest idea
> of what does the word "dialectic" mean. Not joking.
>
> Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky
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