I actually found the time to wade into a couple of my "wants" last night.

It appears Leo can probably do everything I want it to already. I just need
to figure out how. I will work on it over the next couple of months and see
if I can get to the level where I can assemble a configuration that would
be transmittable to others who could benefit from Leo in their writing
workflow but do not have the time to put in the effort to tackle it.

The gulf between writers of fiction, non-fiction and poetry and programmers
is large. It may well be that Leo will never be the tool for the majority
of them. I can see the potential though and for every programmer out there
there are probably a thousand writers.

I guess my last ask before I dive in head first would be to see if any of
the programmers here would be willing to assist. It would save me a lot of
time.

Chris


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Chris George <technat...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Would it be too much to imagine the slickness of something like
> http://gingkoapp.com, but with Leo's flexibility and lack of limitations?
>
> Or is that to dream too big? :-)
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Terry Brown <terry_n_br...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 23:57:50 -0700
>> Matt Wilkie <map...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Chris George <technat...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > What did you think of the other approach, of getting writers into a
>> > > customized Leo with a WYSIWYG editor?
>> >
>> > I would love to have a wysiwyg mode in Leo, but think it will take
>> someone
>> > with programming chops and the same itch to happen on the scene. I don't
>> > think there's many of those type around; the process of building a
>> > developer makes them comfortable with plain text. ;-)
>>
>> Well, that's true, but while you were away :-) we got the richtext.py
>> plugin, which embeds the CKEditor in Leo, editing HTML in the body text
>> in a wysiwyg view.  http://ckeditor.com/demo#full
>>
>> Even for people who like plain text, it's useful for pasting in
>> formatted text from web pages etc. without getting it mangled.
>>
>> To answer your other question, what's with the QRichTextEdit, there's
>> no Python based gui for rich text editing using a QRichTextEdit.
>> Shouldn't be that hard to build one, but a lot of detail to do it
>> comprehensively, i.e. to get to something like CKEditor.  So instead of
>> the obvious native approach we have a javascript rich text editor
>> running in an embedded browser (QWebView) :-)
>>
>> Cheers -Terry
>>
>> > There may be a middle way, it is possible to show the most used rich
>> text
>> > features -- bold, italic, underline, colours -- in plain text. See the
>> > txtfmt plugin for Vim, http://www.txtfmt.webs.com/. Dunno if the same
>> > principles are applicable to Leo.
>> >
>> > (the examples are garish to my eye, but this one in particular shows
>> > promise: [image:
>> > http://txtfmt.webs.com/sample_c_bg.png]<
>> http://txtfmt.webs.com/sample_c_bg.png>
>> > )
>> >
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