Aha interesting so the speculation is that GFW tech is being exported to Cuba Zimbabwe and Belarus? What is the evidence?? On Jan 23, 2013 11:25 PM, "pacificboy" <pacific...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Brian > sorry for the poor typo just typing fast on iphone will have errors. i am > latino but born in the States. To answer you question according to > reporters without borders, "suspects that regimes such as Cuba, Zimbabwe > and Belarus have obtained surveillance technology from the People's > Republic of China" from report entitled "Going online in Cuba: Internet > under surveillance dated 2006. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Brian Conley <bri...@smallworldnews.tv> > wrote: > > Ben says "imports" Ben do you mean china gets their tech from other > countries (imports) or sends their tech TO other countries (exports) > > B > > PS if another language is easier for you please use it! Si un otra lengua > yes mejor para tu, por favor usarlo! Lo siento mi espanol es muy mal, pero > por que su nombre esta arroyo yo creo habla espanol. > On Jan 23, 2013 10:17 PM, "pacificboy" <pacific...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> In the news it has been mentioned and recently the authorizes came to my >> friends work place and order them to stop using vpn at their offices. Also >> if you google on you tube vpn illegal in china you see videos discussing >> this issue. example illegal vpn china weekly hagout dated one month ago by >> fons tuinstra or chinese security cracks down on VPN. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:40 PM, "Eric S Johnson" <cra...@oneotaslopes.org> >> wrote: >> >> Bert raises an interesting question—where cybercensorship technology >> comes from.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> We know Huawei and/or ZTE make routers and switches to compete with >> Cisco, and almost by definition, that’s the level on which cybercensorship >> takes place. But I know of no cases where “the Chinese have exported the >> Great Firewall.” I’ve been to almost all of the major cybercensoring >> countries of the world, and their systems all seem to differ substantially >> enough from the Chinese one (and/or we have some information about how >> their cybercensorship works and/or where it came from). Not to mention that >> building a cybercensorship system isn’t really terribly complicated.**** >> >> Does anyone have any *evidence* that “the Chinese are >> exporting the [hardware or software behind the] GFW” (beyond hearsay, >> supposition, unfounded allegations, etc.)? (I’m not talking about the >> reports of planned re-export of US communications equipment to IR.) **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Cybersurveillance … that’s a different ball (or even kettle) of wax. (For >> instance, we do have a lot of evidence of the export of Russian >> cybersurveillance systems.)**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thoughts?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Best,**** >> >> Eric**** >> >> PGP<http://keyserver.pgp.com/vkd/DownloadKey.event?keyid=0xE0F58E0F1AF7E6F2> >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* liberationtech-boun...@lists.stanford.edu [mailto: >> liberationtech-boun...@lists.stanford.edu] *On Behalf Of *Bert Arroyo >> *Sent:* 24 January 2013 12.00 >> *To:* liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu >> *Subject:* [liberationtech] VPN now illegal in China**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Most of the discussion ion the Libtech forum, if I may states, forgot one >> important thing, China imports its tech to other countries that censor >> their citizen by using Chinese censorship software and their infamous Great >> Firewall. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >> >> >> -- >> Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >> > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > > -- > Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >
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