Barr/Root will achieve utterly nothing, now or for LP in 2012. What has been seeded is the resurgence of a principled third party as the real core stampedes away. Barr will stampede back to being a closet fascist the moment the election closes. He will mumble something about need to work in the "loyal opposition" of the Republicans against the DemObama victory and how progress is realistic only in the two-party system. What will be interesting to see is the payola... what will the Establishment throw him for throwing the election to the Dems as I predict he will.
But back to the arguments at hand: You wouldn't trust an alcoholic with alcohol, a murderer with a gun, a rapist alone with a woman, but I'm supposed to trust an avowed interventionist that wants to extend our involvement in South America as part of his "reformed drug war" thinking -- I'm supposed to trust that a career politician had an epiphany AFTER he fucked us over not once but at least 3 times and more if you count minor legislation. You got to be kidding me. This is not like changing your mind over whether or not you like sunny-side up eggs instead of over-easy. Barr is simply NOT credible in his change of heart. Had he resigned, tearfully, in extreme regret over pushing fascism over his fellow Citizens, it might be believable. Instead, he made a big fuss about supporting measures that COULD NEVER PASS, while voting consistently for the big ticket fascist items. Now -- that's poker face! I've noticed BWS (or is it just BS) that you STILL have not answered the arguments. Do you deny that Barr is a criminal by his very vote actions? Or should his milktoast, too little-too late support of the MMP AFTER he fucked over DC be counted as more important than the fact he was responsible for the disaster in the first place? Would you still not execute a murderer even tho he "regretted his actions"? Why exactly, should I not hold Barr to the same standard? All because he is a little popular...? Would you trust a doctor to set the leg if he was the one who broke it? Or maybe even simpler -- If a girl told you she broke a date because a 747 landed in her bathtub -- would you believe her? And I'm being gentle. Just wait until the real heavies weigh in out there and crush Barr into the ground over his all-too-real hypocrisy. The LP has been bamboozled by a master criminal politician and you deserve everything that follows. And I for one won't forget and neither will many others. ----- Original Message ----- From: Boyd Smith To: LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [LibertarianEnterprise] Re: Report from Denver: Where has he called for the execution of non-Christians. Show the link or post it here. I could care less what Dr. Robert says. He is all emotion and no intellect. Let him pout, whine, and cry on his own. Strategically, it is not a good move to have Barr in front. The radicals control the LNC however, and that is where the heart of the party lies. Barr will not likely win. What we do now is about 2012. It aways has been. Obama will likely win. And by simply not initiating force, allowing people to make their own mistakes, we will be in a better position to win with Ruwart or Smith or Kubby or Keaton or even Jingozian(sp?) in 2012. But those people need to be running for the other under-card elections. That is where the wins can take place. Barr/Root need to be used to promote Libertarians on the down-ticket races. You are right, it is like a game. There is strategy, tactics, and winners and losers. Have you ever played chess? Poker? Rummy? Monopoly? This game is both like and unlike them all. The closest I can come to explaining it is that we have deliberately under-bid in order to bluff our knight sacrifice and to gain a strategic position on the board in order to set up win later on. That is confusing I know. But what we can use Barr/Root to achieve for the next 4 years will be tremendous. And yes I know there are risks associated with Barr/Root but they are controllable, the risks are within acceptable limits. BWS --- Julius No <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am with Dr. Robert on this one. > > http://roberto-de-sonora.blogspot.com/2008/05/bob-barr.html > > You don't get away with calling for execution of non > christians and > get away with it, unless You are the LP National and > are hell bent on > promoting a ticking time bomb to insure the status > quo stays in power > and the LP self destructs. Somebody should have > vetted this guy before > the convention, somebody besides the LP National. > > I have discovered Big Oil controls the LP since the > early 80s. They > (The financing leaders of the LP who stay in the > back ground) have no > interest in seeing any energy competition at all. > The dollar needs Oil > to back it up, otherwise the ongoing Statist game > falls apart. So Big > Oil gets a pass. We have Oil-ARMS-Fiat-illegal > drugs. Just like the > Brits had Tea-Silver-Opium. The Game continues. > > Just wait till we are a week away from election day. > > Bob Barr will be all over the front pages. It won't > be pretty. >
