So now you are saying that a Contract to sell one's organs to the Organ Banks is "Invalid"? That if A agrees to give B a million dollars for his organs so that his kids can get their operations, and B takes the money and spends it and says "SUE ME!", then A would be Initiating Force if he collected on the bargain? Is that your position?
--- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, "Gary F. York" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Zack Bass wrote: > > --- In LibertarianEnterprise@yahoogroups.com, "Gary F. York" > > <gfyork@> wrote: > > > >> Zack Bass wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Califah shoots and misses and immediately > >>> cries, "I withdraw my consent to this travesty!" > >>> Djelibebih shoots anyhow and kills Califah. > >>> Do YOU consider that an Initiation Of Force by Djelibebih? > >>> > >> > >> Yep. > >> > >> > > > > Interesting theory. I am truly surprised. > > Okay, now Califah's distraught wife gets some of her friends to grab > > Djelibebih and hold her in a cage for a year as Punishment. > > Do you consider THAT a Violation Of NAP? > > > Yep. > > Understand. My conception of NAP, ZAP, or non-initiation of force, > holds no room at all for justifying the barbaric customs of "punishment" > or "retribution." > > My conception includes restraint (if necessary to prevent aggression), > restitution (includes damages, including cost of collection, but not > punitive damages), self-defense, of course, and even, possibly, > execution -- where the threat of continued aggression is substantial and > no one is willing to pony-up the expense of sustained restraint. > Wherever physical force is used, I'd also expect some form of community > review to ensure that the force was used legitimately, proportionately, > and appropriately. Keeps the neighbors from becoming unnecessarily alarmed. > > G. >
