> Really? What are the damages? > In the case of the supposed "rape" above (presumably some form of sexual > contact, whether with the penis or something else), there is no benefit to > the owner of the comatose body. However, things can also be arranged so > that there is no harm to the owner of the comatose body --
Okay. two things occur to me. I find this wrong, but I am going to have to take some time and really think about why. I suspect it's based on an idea of an objective right and wrong, so I want to prepare to argue that point as well The second thing is - If the woman was a friend of yours, awoke from her comatose state and asked you if some such thing had happened, would you tell her? I believe in an objective world. I am no good at proving it because I am not so well educated in philosophy and debate. By experience suggests that dealing with the real world, on it's own terms is a facet of a healthy mind. This leads to honesty. A sense of personal honesty is the block to me for saying that a harm which leaves little or no effects, and that no one knows of is not really a harm. This is because the woman's body is still her property, no matter who knows what happens to it or not. What that does is simply delay the harm. Puts it into a sort of Schrödinger's Rape sort of deal where whether or not it's harm depends on whether the victim of the abuse ever discovers the abuse. If the man rapes the comatose woman, is he or is he not a dickhead? That is a question answerable irregardless of whether the woman knows she's had her primary property violated. He sure as hell is a major dickhead. IMHO this "Major League Dickwad" status accrues to him no matter who else externally knows of his act. Because I don't want to be a Major League Dickwad, i won't rape any comatose women. If circumstances force me to abuse someone else's property or perish, a choice between two wrongs doesn't render the less wrong right. To make up for this I'd offer to make amends to the person who's property I'd abused. If someone was forced by circumstance to abuse some of my property, I probably wouldn't be too harsh on them "Well, then, clean it up!" If someone broke into my property and then didn't do much to it, there is harm, it's just *really small* harm. I'd probably let it go. But the harm was in not respecting the "Mine-ness" of the property. We live in an imperfect world and when you split the hair far enough you have to expect some signal noise. But the Male nurse in the example above reads a class ten dickwad, clearly. -- Jay P Hailey ~Meow!~ MSNIM - jayphailey ; AIM -jayphailey03; ICQ - 37959005 HTTP://jayphailey.8m.com Believing in yourself is the beginning of wisdom. _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list Libnw@immosys.com List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
