Good morning, Dave! I took a quick look at the links you gave below. The first one was a long page of links. I wasn't going to try to sort out what was what there to try to validate any of your claims. The wiki link, at least when I visited--could be changed by now by anyone to anything, said that the Bush Administration was responsible for leaning on a power company in India to do a $3 billion deal. The next one noted that this deal was sealed four days after Enron sent 100,000 to the DNC--oh yeah, Ken Lay also had played golf with Clinton. This was in 1997, or earlier since the link (now broken) is to a 1997 Time article.
Enron went bust during the Bush administration's first year. I'm still confused about whether I'm supposed to be mad at Bush for not propping it up longer or whether I'm supposed to be mad at Bush for not making sure it went bankrupt on his first day in office. And yes, Don Evans and Paul O'Neil got calls from people trying to prop up Enron--including from former (Clinton) Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin asking for help propping up Enron. The Bush administration officials decided to do nothing, but we're supposed to be mad at them (or Bush, I'm still not sure which) because they didn't tell Bush. I'm also in the dark as to just what Bush was supposed to have done with the information if he had received it. Of course, I'm NOT supposed to be mad at Clinton for allowing the CIA to be misused by Enron when Enron was trying to get a pipeline going through Afghanistan. I say this because the article does not say when this CIA misuse occurred or under what administration. But I happen to know from other sources that the pipeline project was long-dead when Bush was inaugurated. As for the Cheney meetings, they look suspicious until you realize that they didn't do Enron any good--it still went bankrupt. I'm sorry, Dave, but most of these claims appear to be about as bankrupt as Enron itself. Lowell C. Savage It's the freedom, stupid! Gun control: tyrants' tool, fools' folly. > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Dave Laird > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 5:35 AM > To: libnw@immosys.com > Subject: Re: Happy Birthday! > > Good morning, Connie, everyone... > > Conster wrote: > > > I continue to support Bush and while you all stick your noses up in > > the arm, isn't it funny that the Clinton administration spoke of these > > weapons and Iraq is a pretty big place. If you look at Hanford, you'd > > probably have a hell of a time finding where they buried the drums of > > toxic waste.. But it doesn't mean it isn't there. > > I really haven't had the time to properly give your comments, above, any > real credence. However, in a bout of sleeplessness over the last few > nights, I have been closely studying a series of documents relating to the > ties between Enron, Kenneth Lay and power players deep inside the George > Bush White House as well as former President Bill Clinton. > > For those who desire or need such things to validate some of my statements > which will follow, here are just a few of the *thousands* of sources on > the Internet regarding the downfall of Enron and ties to George Bush and > others I can cite: > > http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/lit/enron/ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron > http://www.llrx.com/features/enron.htm > http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/enron > http://www.hereinreality.com/enron.html > > Links to the Enron Bankruptcy itself: > > http://www.elaw4enron.com/ > > The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission web site: > > http://www.ferc.gov/ > > A list of violations past and present involving SEC documents: > > http://www.sec.gov/spotlight/enron.htm > > As I said, these are but a few of the documents available online which > anyone interested in knowing the *truth* can read for their own > edification. My position on the ties between Enron, President George Bush > and former President Bill Clinton is that it requires a considerable > amount of diligence in order to comprehend the shadowy, underhanded deals > made, the volume of e-mail messages between Enron principals and > high-ranking government officials who purported were protecting the > interests of ordinary citizens. However, the evidence clearly shows a > level of collusion and involvement that reaches to the highest levels of > the Bush administration. > > First, so that there is no misinterpretation, what public records show is > that *Trillions* of dollars have been misappropriated, mercilessly stolen > and paid out to high-ranking politicians and Enron employees while > investors and the general public took it in the shorts. While this was > happening, Vice-President Dick Cheney was holding meetings with Former > Enron Corp. chairman Kenneth L. Lay that Cheney states he cannot remember. > > One of the biggest problems facing federal regulators and prosecutors is > that of following the money trail. Between 1989 and 2001, Enron > contributed nearly $6 million to federal parties and candidates, more than > two-thirds to Republicans. More than $2 million of that money came during > the 1999-2000 election cycle alone, when the company became one of the > biggest boosters to President Bush's campaign for the White House. Enron's > PAC and its employees contributed $114,000 to Bush during the 2000 > campaign, while former Enron CEO Kenneth Lay served as one of Bush's > Pioneers, individuals who raised at least $100,000 for the campaign. > > How would it look to George Bush faithful when Washington launches an > investigation into one of its biggest campaign contributors? Given the > estimated 4 million dollars that is paid each year in Washington, D.C. to > lobbyists, perhaps you begin to see the scope of the problems still facing > the Bush Administration. The public documents prove pretty conclusively > that Vice-President Dick Cheney had knowledge before-the-fact about > Enron's true financial condition. Furthermore, Cheney's lawyers have > resisted nearly every effort to force him to disclose the contents of a > series of e-mail messages sent to him by Enron just *hours* before the > bankruptcy notices were filed. > > Given the overwhelming evidence that Enron paid over $550000 to Bush's > election campaign, of covert meetings between Dick Cheney and Enron just > hours before the bankruptcy notices were filed, and repeated appeals to > the White House as the House of Cards known as Enron began falling down > around everyone's head, I would hardly dare call this sticking my nose up > my arm. Rather, I would call this righteous indignation at a corrupt, > crooked administration who accepted illegal political campaign > contributions from Enron and Worldcom leading to both corporations' > demise. > > Of course, if you can find any court documents where it says conclusively > that neither Vice-President Dick Cheney nor President George Bush had any > knowledge relating to the criminal charges principals of both corporations > now face, or that the charges of insider trading against various > high-ranking Republicans in the Bush camp are untrue, I certainly would > appreciate reading them, as well. > > Just remember when some West Coast utility companies saw their energy > costs nearly triple due to Enron trading, Enron was making huge donations > to President George Bush and making under-the-table deals with Dick > Cheney. That's just *some* of what is already in court documents and on > the public record. > > Dave > -- > Dave Laird ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > The Used Kharma Lot > Web Page: http://www.kharma.net updated 11/24/2004 > Usenet news server : news://news.kharma.net > > Fortune Random Thought For the Minute > Reality always seems harsher in the early morning. > _______________________________________________ > Libnw mailing list > Libnw@immosys.com > List info and subscriber options: > http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw > Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list Libnw@immosys.com List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
