Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 13:16:28 -0400
From: "E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Got it1!

Scratch it, guys. I've got a new Sony PCMCIA CD-ROM drive that RH7.1
recognizes! Sweet!

The install is going nice as we speak.

Thanks for your help. I'd still like to be able to do an install from a FAT,
but I guess one of these days

-e.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eiren K. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Got it1!


> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 12:29:53 -0400
> From: "Eiren K. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Got it1!
>
> Thanks, Jason. I've been trying that, but no joy. Is there a cylinder
limit
> past which it will not look for the copied files? My D: partition (where
> I've copied the CD files) follows a ~4GB C: partition. Could that be it?
>
> Also, what directory do I need to point to in the "Select Parition" box?
> I've tried "RedHat/", "" (no path specified), "RedHat/base/", and
> "RedHat/RPMS/". I've also tried all these without the trailing slash.
Still
> it says either ""Device /dev/hda5 does not appear to contain Red Hat CDROM
> images." and
>  if I type a directory name wrong, I get "Failed to read directory
> /tmp/hdimage/<whateverthewrongnameis>: No such file or directory".
>
> Can you or anyone else lend some advice?
>
> -e.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 11:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Got it1!
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 08:41:29 -0700
> > From: "Jason Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Got it1!
> >
> > It only needs the files -- in the correct place. Another easy way to do
it
> > is to mount the CD in your computer and perform a [local] network
install.
> >
> > Make sure that you're correctly pointing to the redhat/ directory and/or
> its
> > contents as necessary ...
> >
> > -Jason
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eiren K. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 7:03 AM
> > Subject: Re: Got it1!
> >
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:53:56 -0400
> > > From: "Eiren K. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: Got it1!
> > >
> > > That's a good start, Robbert. But I still get stuck when it asks me to
> > > select a partition to install from. It seems to expect an ISO image
and
> > I've
> > > only got files copied from the CD--not exactly an ISO image.
> > >
> > > I've got an L50. I've put my entire RH 7.1 CD in D:\RH\  (a FAT16 par
on
> > my
> > > internal drive). I haven't been successful getting it pointed to the
> files
> > > on the drive. I've watched case-sensitivity and am pretty sure that's
> not
> > > it. What do I point it to the the example given above?
> > >
> > > BTW, this second par is recognized as /dev/hda5.
> > >
> > > -e.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 6:23 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Got it1!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 00:13:27 +0200
> > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: RE: Got it1!
> > > >
> > > > Hey Eiren,
> > > >
> > > > Piece of cake.
> > > >
> > > > I started with a libby 70, one (original) Toshiba floppydrive
> (PCMCIA),
> > > and
> > > > an original Toshiba CDromdrive (PCMCIA)
> > > >
> > > > Installed DOS, installed the CDrom driver.
> > > > Then I put disk 1 of RH7.1 in th CDromdrive
> > > > What I did:
> > > >
> > > > 1) I copied D:\REDHAT\BASE and D:\REDHAT\RPMS to the C: drive (20gb
> HD)
> > > >
> > > > 2) I login to the CDrom drive (D:\), go to directory D:\DOSUTILS\
and
> > > start
> > > > the AUTOBOOT.BAT file there
> > > >
> > > > Follow the menu's, and be patient, sometimes the system acts slow,
> don't
> > > > bank on the keys when you think it is locked.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Add ALL the available videodrivers and all the available Xfree
files,
> > just
> > > > to make sure you have them all.
> > > >
> > > > good luck
> > > >
> > > > Robbert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Eiren K. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 23:28
> > > > > To: Libretto
> > > > > Subject: Re: Got it1!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 17:22:44 -0400
> > > > > From: "Eiren K. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Got it1!
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you do a floppy boot and install from a PCMCIA CD-ROM?  If so,
> > what
> > > > > CD-ROM drive?
> > > > >
> > > > > If not, would you mind giving some more details.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it's that easy, I'm gonna get a copy of RH 7.1 tonight and give
> it
> > a
> > > > > whirl.
> > > > >
> > > > > -e.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 11:38 AM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Got it1!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 17:33:05 +0200
> > > > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Got it1!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > yihaaa!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i got RH 7.1 up and running, WITH X server (gnome)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just 'right out of the box'
> > > > > > Floppy worked, and the CDromdrive  AND, finally   The Xserver
> > (Gnome)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yihaa!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Robbert
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: neil barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 11:18
> > > > > > > To: Libretto
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Got it1!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 09:08:25
> > > > > > > From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Got it1!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note: I think there are a lot of libraries which need
> > > > > rebuilding (from a
> > > > > > > stock mandrake 7.1 installation) before X4+ will
> work...including
> > > the
> > > > > > > delightful task of upgrading the rpm code...hint: later rpm v4
> > > > > > > rpms are not
> > > > > > > readable by rpm v3. Nightmare.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But be reassured - 3.36 is *fine* on a 50 and 70. When I have
> > > > > > > more info I'll
> > > > > > > post. This is tonight's task, even if I have to install on
> > > > > the desktop.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > *still* don't know why it takes so much effort to unpack and
> > > install!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Neil
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Jason Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >To: Libretto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Got it1!
> > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 17:08:21 -0700
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 16:59:23 -0700
> > > > > > > >From: "Jason Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Got it1!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Install RedHat, but omit the XFree86 packages. Then visit
> > > > > > > www.xfree86.org,
> > > > > > > >and follow the instructions.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >The basic procedure will be:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     - Download the basic install tools (Xinstall.sh,
extract)
> > > > > > > and put them
> > > > > > > >in a directory
> > > > > > > >     - Download the base packages (in the README) like
> > > > > Xlibs.tgz, etc.
> > > > > > > >     - Run the installer script (sh Xinstall.sh)
> > > > > > > >     - Answer the prompts (or, hit return a lot of times)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Also beware that XFree86 4.1.0 has a bad 3Dfx glide driver
> > > > > > > module. Why does
> > > > > > > >this affect you? If you try to generate an XF86Config file by
> > > running
> > > > > > > >Xfree86 -configure, you will not be successful until you
remove
> > the
> > > > > > > >offending module. When XFree86 comes across an error, it
stops
> > > > > processing
> > > > > > > >the modules -- and all of them fail. This is all outlined in
> > > > > the online
> > > > > > > >addendum.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >It's not a scary procedure at all. In fact, there are many
> pieces
> > > of
> > > > > > > >software that probably need to be updated. And just for
> > > > > > > reference, I won't
> > > > > > > >install RedHat 7.0 (especially 7.1); I have 6.1 on my own
> machine
> > > > > > > >temporarily. Hope that helps.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >-Jason
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > >From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:28 PM
> > > > > > > >Subject: RE: Got it1!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 01:21:28 +0200
> > > > > > > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Got it1!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Jason,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for your quick response.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I certainly have my doubts about the Redhat 7.0 supplied
> XFree
> > > > > server.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How do I install RH Linux with XFree86 4.0.1  ???
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can that be done with a RPM files??
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Should I just install the default RH 7.0, and afterwards
> > > overwrite
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > original Xserver setup with XFree86 4.0.1??
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How do I do that??
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Robbert
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Jason Kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 00:28
> > > > > > > > > > To: Libretto
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Got it1!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 15:20:55 -0700
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Jason Kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Got it1!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > RedHat runs perfectly on my Libretto 100CT, even with
its
> > > > > > > > > > non-standard 800 x
> > > > > > > > > > 480 resolution. Did you try using XFree86 4.0.1 (i.e.
not
> > the
> > > > > > > >distribution
> > > > > > > > > > from the CD)? I highly customized most aspects of my
> system
> > > > > > > to fit in
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > limited capacity of my Libby, but it runs much better
than
> > > > > > > > > > Windows ever did.
> > > > > > > > > > I'm still not happy with it, and I'm going to wipe my
> drive
> > > and
> > > > > put
> > > > > > > > > > slackware on it for better customization.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You do know that X-windows is extremely slow and memory
> > > > > > > intensive when
> > > > > > > >you
> > > > > > > > > > pile something like GNOME or KDE on top of it, right? I
> > > > > > > have 64 MB of
> > > > > > > >RAM,
> > > > > > > > > > and I still find myself uncomfortably close to living
> > > > > out of swap
> > > > > > > > > > space when
> > > > > > > > > > I launch AbiWord. I just use WindowMaker to cut down on
> > > > > overhead.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I haven't been following your messages, but what are
> > > > > the specific
> > > > > > > > > > errors you
> > > > > > > > > > are getting from the X server?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Jason
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > To: "Libretto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 3:08 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Got it1!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 00:01:29 +0200
> > > > > > > > > > > From: "Robbert J. van Herksen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Got it1!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Neil, and others that might be insterested in
reading
> > > about
> > > > > > > > > > my endless
> > > > > > > > > > > tryouts getting ANY version/distribution of Linux on
my
> > > Libby,
> > > > > > > > > > that gives
> > > > > > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > > > > at least a fully working Xserver for a graphical User
> > > > > Interface.
> > > > > > > > > > > (I tried RedHat, installs SO EASY, but doesn't let me
> run
> >
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Xserver for
> > > > > > > > > > > one strange reason or another PLUS floppydrive
> > recognition.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm stressfully trying to install mandrake from your
> > > Mandrake
> > > > > > > > > > v7.1 CD, but
> > > > > > > > > > > it's a big disaster.
> > > > > > > > > > > I have never seen such unflexible and slightly stupid
> > > > > > > > > > installation menu's.
> > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > LOVE Redhat.....
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What I did:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 1) I have a Libby 70CT running DOS, with a driver
> > > > > > > installed properly
> > > > > > > >for
> > > > > > > > > > > accessing an external CD rom.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 2) I copied D:\MANDRAKE\BASE and D:\MANDRAKE\RPMS to
the
> > C:
> > > > > drive
> > > > > > > >(20gb
> > > > > > > > > > HD)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 3) I login to the CDrom drive (D:\), go to directory
> > > > > > > > > > D:\DOSUTILS\AUTOBOOT
> > > > > > > > > > > and start the AUTOBOOT.BAT file
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It starts copying stuff, and I get an installation
menu
> > > > > > > that asks me
> > > > > > > > > > > from what kind of CDrom I want to install it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Bly me, I want to install from the HARDDISK, why did
> > > > > I copy all
> > > > > > > > > > the stuff
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > my HD for then??
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > How do I tell this low IQ installation routine to
> install
> > > > > > > from HD,
> > > > > > > >NOT
> > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > CD?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Another try:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I startup the HARDDISK.BAT batchfile, in
> > > > > > > >D:\DOSUTILS\AUTOBOOT\MDKINST
> > > > > > > > > > > I starts running, and a menu appears, I have to select
> the
> > > > > > > > > > partition that
> > > > > > > > > > > holds the MANDRAKE\BASE and the MANDRAKE\RPMS
> > > > > directories. in my
> > > > > > > >case
> > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > is only one partition: /dev/hda1
> > > > > > > > > > > Below it asks for the directory that holds the Linux
> > > Mandrake.
> > > > > > > > > > > I select the default, which is \
> > > > > > > > > > > I click OK and.............. I get:
> > > > > > > > > > > "Error reading second stage ramdisk"
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Next distribution please, anyone???............ (I
can't
> > > > > > > help loving
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > > > superb installation intelligence of Redhat)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Help!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Robbert
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > PS:
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