Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:41:08 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba Laptop Selection

I purchased a Portege 7220CTe off eBay myself for $550AUD shipped (around 
$300USD direct conversion), PIII650, 13" 1024x768 screen, 20GB HDD, 128 meg 
of RAM, just on an inch thick. It's been serving me real well (yes OK, 
blasphemy to a Libretto purist but nice as my 100CT was, the screen 
realestate, or lack thereof, was starting to really get to me ...).

The nice thing about it is that it's darn tough. It's one of few notebooks 
of its era I know of that you could hold horizontally by grasping onto one 
corner of the screen, when opened out flat, without flexing noticeably. The 
top does show scratches quite badly though. It also doesn't have the 
hibernation issue (it sees my 20 gig hard drive straight away). Bear in 
mind though that AFAIK, it doesn't do a BIOS hibernation, it relies on the 
hibernation provided by the operating system (so on the one hand it is file 
system aware so you don't clobber bits of disk, on the other hand, other 
operating systems like Linux would have a fun time trying to hibernate - 
suspend still works though).

If you want to go cheaper, consider the Portege 31xx series which are PII 
based ... I worked with them a few years ago (although we never swapped the 
original 6 gig drives out so I don't know how they handle >8gb hard 
drives), again a real nice machine, real thin and light but their screens 
are a little smaller (but then again the laptop itself is somewhat smaller 
than the 7220CTe - regardless I found them quite useable).

Bear in mind though that these laptops lose the usual perks of a full sized 
machine - inbuilt optical drives, network adapters (none of the Toshiba 
ultrathins of the era have inbuilt network although the 31xx series 
Porteges had them on the included docking bar), floppy disks, serial ports 
(they do have USB ports though) and the like.

One slight step up in terms of that era of notebook is the Toshiba 
Satellite 30CDT. I'm not entirely sure why it was branded a Satellite, it 
should probably have been a Portege, it's about the right size albeit a 
little thicker. It has inbuilt firewire AND a CD-ROM drive (or is it a 
CD-RW? I can't remember) plus a variety of other ports. I think it also has 
built in ethernet. If I'm not mistaken, it's a PIII based Celeron. It was 
also one of the first Toshiba notebooks to come out with a touchpad instead 
of a pointing stick. It's also darn strong - a collegue had one come out of 
his backpack whilst riding his bicycle, shaved a good portion off one 
corner of his laptop and shattered part of the internal magnesium frame 
(the shell is plastic but it has a magnesium frame). We cleaned out the 
fragments, screwed it back together and apart from one messed up PCMCIA 
port (doesn't eject properly due to bent metalwork), the laptop still 
works! It might be a little tricky to find though, from what I understand, 
it was somewhat of an oddball laptop (there are no obvious predecessors or 
successors to the 30CDT, not like most other laptops in Toshiba's range).


Hope this helps somewhat, do throw up any questions you might have!


- Raymond


At 06:30 PM 13/07/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 21:29:02 EDT
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Toshiba Laptop Selection
>
>In a message dated 7/13/2004 9:48:52 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> > > Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 15:31:55 EDT
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Toshiba Laptop Selection
> > >
> > > Fellow listers:
> > >
> > > I'm in the process of selecting a laptop PC for my daughter, who will 
> head
> > > off to college in August.  Being a Libretto devotee, I'd prefer to get a
> > > Toshiba of some flavor, but I'm not as educated as I'd like on the older
> > > models that I can afford.  I'm looking for a PII machine, in the 
> 300-400mHz
> > > range, preferably not a heavyweight but fairly light/thin, maybe a 
> 10.4" or
> > > 12" LCD.  Can anyone help me out with suitable models I should be 
> focusing
> > > on?  Thanks.
> >
> > Lee,
> >
> > From your criteria, you're probably looking at a portege. I have both the
> > 7020CT and the 3480CT.
> >
><snip>
>
>Neil,
>
>May I pick your brain on the 7020CT (7010 is similar I assume)?  I'm
>wondering about DOS hibernation.  Are these Porteges plagued with the 
>Libretto
>hibernation issues, e.g., must I set up a blank area on the HDD for 
>it?  If not, do
>you know how it's handled?  Thanks for any info you can supply.
>
>
>Lee
>
>
>
>
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