Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:47:12 -0800 From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Lib slow loading WWW content w/broadband
I forgot to respond to this back when I saw it was originally sent. In my experience at least without tweaking browsers, with any Pentium 1 class computer is a lesson in patience for sites like Amazon, eBay and many others. I have 8 Pentium 1 class computers right in this room plus my Librettos to see this effect every single day. I have multiple providers, so it isn't that. Connection speed makes little difference with the sites eBay. All of my Pentium 1 class computers FREEZE for a second or two, several times during the loading of an eBay page. This is using Internet Explorer versions 5.0, 5.5 or 6.0 in Windows 95, 98 or 98SE. I see this same effect in my Libretto's and desktops. I don't use any other browser at this time, so I can't say how much the browser itself effects operation. I can tell you this however. Open a complex 50 page document in Microsoft Word and see if you don't nearly freeze or get major lag (for a second or two) while scrolling and editing etc on the above described systems. You CAN open a 27,000 page document with Word in Windows (because I have done it several times) but it really lags a lot and eventually crashes on the Pentium 1's. My point is that Windows Programs can handle a good bit of text lots of ways, but there is often anomalies and efficiency problems. I looked at an eBay script from a My eBay page and it was 23 pages long. For Microsoft Word that isn't that big a deal, but with all the graphics etc, it is a lot I think going on for a Pentium 1 considering the inefficiency of IE. There are a LOT of links for the browser to handle. In my opinion the slow down you describe and I experience daily is a simple case of processing a HUGE amount of data at once and is purely processor power based due to the inefficient nature of internet scripts and programming forms along with the sloppy programming in IE. (like Java) I don't mean to sound so harsh to Windows and IE or other modern programs, but I learned to program back in the days of the Z80, Commodore 16's, 64's and Vic 20's Tandy's etc. It is amazing how "big" everything has gotten. Compare the game F19 Stealth Fighter which was written for a Commodore 64 originally. 64K, yeah. The PC version was around 400K. That is what I mean. There isn't much optimizing these days as there isn't much reason most of the time. If most people have Pentium 3's and 4's with a Gig of ram, most programmers are going to target those systems. You don't always need a faster computer, just a better program and or OS. ;) Another thing I noticed was a 50+ meg drop in physical memory per IE browser opened with eBay. That tells you how much the processor is dealing with. Another indicator the slowdown is processor/system based is that I notice even slight choppiness (no freezes though) now with these same sites at the same points with a Pentium 2 machine. This is with Windows 98SE, 512Meg of ram, one browser window open and over 350 meg of RAM free, No virtual memory in use AND this particular machine boots with 95% Resources Free. (I think even my Libretto is at like 78% free after boot) Pretty cut and dried to me. My 2 cents... : ) John Martin =========================================== ---------- From: Matthew Hanson [SMTP:] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:13 PM To: Libretto Subject: [LIB] Lib slow loading WWW content w/broadband Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:10:42 +0000 From: "Matthew Hanson" < > Subject: Lib slow loading WWW content w/broadband Libretto list info: List archive 1: http://www.technoir.org/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16212.html Is it just >my< Libbys, or everyones that are getting slower and slower while surfing the net with broadband these days. Sites like EBay, BestBuy, Amazon and a lot of other commercial sites have become more and more laiden with graphics and flash style multimedia plugins that have been draining the life out of my L110 to process. I did load FlashAndPicsControl.exe to enable turning flash content off years back. But even with that set, it seems a growing number of websites contain so many files that it's taking longer and longer for this old L110 to process it all and display it on screen. I don't think it's yet another of those inevitable problems with the OS becomig corrupted. What are others seeing with regards to their Libbys loading all this extra web content? Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get live scores and news about your team: Add the Live.com Football Page www.live.com/?addtemplate=football&icid=T001MSN30A0701
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