Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:51:36 -0800 From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Lib slow loading WWW content w/broadband
Hello Matthew Hanson... Sorry I wasn't clear on the Virtual Memory. To be more accurate, virtual memory is enabled on that system, but it doesn't use it for quite a while. You have to open up a couple of browsers before it even begins to use its swap file. Microsoft System Information states it something like this: Total Physical Memory: 511 MB Available Physical Memory: 398 MB USER Memory Available: 77.9% GDI Memory Available: 87% Swap file size: 0 MB Swap file usage 0% Swap file setting: Dynamic (many irrelevant fields excluded) Microsoft Control Panel/System/General tab shows 94% System Resources free at boot. A couple of browser windows knock that down pretty fast, but it is primarily a gaming machine, so I keep it really clean. So more accurately, on that particular Pentium 2 (Windows 98SE, 512Meg-Ram), it will experience some lag browsing the sites like eBay and Amazon (and 1000 others) even if it has not begun to use the swap file. Point being, the lag can't be blamed on low system memory forcing the use of a hard drive for memory. Hope that is more clear. : ) John Martin ================================================== ---------- From: Matthew Hanson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:20 PM To: Libretto Subject: RE: [LIB] Lib slow loading WWW content w/broadband Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:19:19 +0000 From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LIB] Lib slow loading WWW content w/broadband Libretto list info: List archive 1: http://www.technoir.org/cgi-bin/libretto.cgi List archive 2: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] To unsubscribe: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16212.html Great overview of what's going on with these old systems trying to process all the data thrown at them John. >From: John Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >You >CAN open a 27,000 page document with Word in Windows (because I have done >it several times) but it really lags a lot and eventually crashes on the >Pentium 1's. Ah yes... remember the experience with all the fond associated angst... 8-O >I don't mean to sound so harsh to Windows and IE or other modern programs, >but I learned to program back in the days of the Z80, Commodore 16's, 64's >and Vic 20's Tandy's etc. It is amazing how "big" everything has gotten. > Compare the game F19 Stealth Fighter which was written for a Commodore 64 >originally. 64K, yeah. The PC version was around 400K. And when you got a newer PC, old programs written in machine code would >scream!< >That is what I >mean. There isn't much optimizing these days as there isn't much reason >most of the time. If most people have Pentium 3's and 4's with a Gig of >ram, most programmers are going to target those systems. You don't always >need a faster computer, just a better program and or OS. ;) There are new programs that look like they're written in Visual Basic that just bug the heck out of me. I can always spot them by the web style appearance of the standard MS menus that have a less defined, less crisp look to them... eg: File, Edit, View, Help menus and submenus. Those programs, Firefox for one, are usually resource suckers. I tend to dump the idea of testing them until I've run out of alternatives that might work better in their place. >Another thing I noticed was a 50+ meg drop in physical memory per IE >browser opened with eBay. That tells you how much the processor is dealing >with. Ouch... >Another indicator the slowdown is processor/system based is that I notice >even slight choppiness (no freezes though) now with these same sites at the >same points with a Pentium 2 machine. This is with Windows 98SE, 512Meg >of ram, one browser window open and over 350 meg of RAM free, No virtual >memory in use AND this particular machine boots with 95% Resources Free. > (I think even my Libretto is at like 78% free after boot) Pretty cut and >dried to me. Why no virtual memory John? I've always found Windows to be at it's peak when it manages it's own virtual memory. Case in point has been when I ran my free HDD space down to 125MB, and this Margi DVD-To-Go card started stuttering. It really seems to need that virtual memory. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/
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