On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Timothy Perrett <timo...@getintheloop.eu>wrote:

>
> I know that has been the plan - but I cant help but think that Servlet
> 3.0 is still a long way off standardisation?
>

It's been 3 months away from being a standard for almost 2 years. ;-)


>
> What do you think?
>
> Cheers, Tim
>
>
> On 7 Oct 2009, at 16:53, David Pollak wrote:
>
> > I was hoping to generically support Servlet 3.0 continuations (which
> > should work for Jetty 7 and Glassfish).  Please open a ticket for it.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Timothy Perrett <timo...@getintheloop.eu
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I just wanted to rename this thread and raise this for proper
> > discussion. API's between J6.x and J7.x appear to be the same, its
> > mainly the package names and structure that have changed.
> >
> > Is it feasible to add a match statement to replace the current val
> > assignments that have essentially hardcoded dependency on J6.x?
> >
> > There's some great stuff in Jetty 7 that would really help me (and
> > lots of others) out....
> >
> > Cheers, Tim
> >
> > On Oct 5, 5:20 pm, Timothy Perrett <timo...@getintheloop.eu> wrote:
> > > Id say that it would be easier to use a match statement as part of
> > the
> > > val assignment... The current code is just using reflection, so
> > > factoring into a case statement shouldnt be too tough right?
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Cheers, Tim
> > >
> > > On 5 Oct 2009, at 16:48, Indrajit Raychaudhuri wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 05/10/09 5:29 PM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
> > >
> > > >> So I just wrote a Jetty 6 wrapper - getting the packaging
> > working was
> > > >> not ideal and not as flexible as Jetty 7 jetty-runner.
> > >
> > > > Yes, just took a look at jetty-runner. Feature wise, it's blows
> > away
> > > > the
> > > > older mechanism man!
> > >
> > > >> Any thoughts in and around altering the lift code to adjust the
> > > >> package based on jetty version?
> > >
> > > > I can think of two options basically:
> > >
> > > > 1. Move to jetty 7 and be done with it.
> > >
> > > > 2. Allowing user option (via -Djetty.version) during
> > > > archetype:generate.
> > > > jetty.version can be an overridable archetype property that
> > defaults
> > > > to
> > > > (say 6) but user can do -Djetty.version=7.
> > >
> > > > Depending on the jetty version, the *.scala, *.xml etc. can be
> > > > filtered
> > > > to make the right kind of adjustment during archetype creation.
> > >
> > > > Cheers, Indrajit
> > >
> > > >> Cheers, Tim
> > >
> > > >> On Oct 5, 9:07 am, Timothy Perrett<timo...@getintheloop.eu>
> > wrote:
> > > >>> Indrajit,
> > >
> > > >>> Your right, jetty-runner is Jetty 7. The only tie we have to
> > Jetty 6
> > > >>> would be this line:
> > >
> > > >>>       val cc = Class.forName
> > > >>> ("org.mortbay.util.ajax.ContinuationSupport")
> > >
> > > >>> It would be trivial to add a match or whatever that determined
> > the
> > > >>> correct type to use... The question is, why haven't we done this
> > > >>> already? I suspect its just a time / capacity issue but wanted
> > to
> > > >>> check.
> > >
> > > >>> I know I could write a jetty 6 wrapper, but that is my fallback
> > > >>> position as something more OOTB would be preferable.
> > >
> > > >>> Cheers, Tim
> > >
> > > >>> On Oct 5, 8:29 am, Indrajit Raychaudhuri<indraj...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>>> Tim,
> > >
> > > >>>> Interestingly, we are trying out something similar in a project
> > > >>>> here and
> > > >>>> this is absolutely cool stuff.
> > >
> > > >>>> In fact, Zimbra Desktop does this too. Pure Prism+Jetty
> > bundled as
> > > >>>> 'desktop application'.
> > >
> > > >>>> That you can have 'double-click' friendly application helps :-)
> > >
> > > >>>> Few notes:
> > >
> > > >>>> 1. Embedding Jetty server is super easy with
> > > >>>> org.mortbay.jetty.Server.
> > > >>>> Something that we have in Lift - well almost ;-) The
> > RunWebApp in
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>> archetypes are primitive use case of such. [1]
> > >
> > > >>>> 2. Jetty Runner is available only on Jetty 7.x series I think
> > (not
> > > >>>> certain). But yes, looks good either way.
> > >
> > > >>>> 3. Jetty has this clean and nice way of having web-app specific
> > > >>>> jetty
> > > >>>> config tucked inside the application (war or expanded) within
> > > >>>> WEB-INF/jetty-web.xml which is basically an XmlConfiguration
> > > >>>> instance
> > > >>>> applied on the specific WebApplicationContext instead of the
> > > >>>> Container
> > > >>>> Context. [2]
> > >
> > > >>>> 4. An archetype that does self deploying is something that I
> > have
> > > >>>> on my
> > > >>>> todo-list. Do you think this would make sense?
> > >
> > > >>>> 5. Maven assembly plugin would do. I haven't tried this
> > myself, but
> > > >>>> Maven shade plugin looks something close. [3]
> > >
> > > >>>> [1]http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Embedding+Jetty
> > > >>>> [2]http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/jetty-web.xml
> > > >>>> [3]http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-shade-plugin/
> > >
> > > >>>> Cheers, Indrajit
> > >
> > > >>>> NB: Looks like quite a few night owl here!
> > >
> > > >>>> On 05/10/09 4:11 AM, Timothy Perrett wrote:
> > >
> > > >>>>> Viktor, you and I should not be up this late on a sunday! ;-)
> > >
> > > >>>>> You have to see this:http://blogs.webtide.com/janb/entry/
> > > >>>>> jetty_runner
> > >
> > > >>>>> Im going to hash this together as a maven assembly; if it
> > works,
> > > >>>>> then
> > > >>>>> i'll write a blog and stuff it on the wiki... this could
> > really
> > > >>>>> make
> > > >>>>> self deploying apps very nice indeed. I'll check with DavidB,
> > > >>>>> but im
> > > >>>>> fairly sure it would also be trivial to make a little maven
> > plugin
> > > >>>>> that builds a single JAR output...
> > >
> > > >>>>> Cheers, Tim
> > >
> > > >>>>> On Oct 4, 11:10 pm, Viktor Klang<viktor.kl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>>> Thanks for the linky, mate!
> > > >>>>>> Was a good read :)
> > >
> > > >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:45 PM, Timothy
> > > >>>>>> Perrett<timo...@getintheloop.eu>wrote:
> > >
> > > >>>>>>> Just some more fuel for this debate:
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>http://technically.us/code/x/to-jettison-geronimo/
> > >
> > > >>>>>>> Cheers, Tim
> > >
> > > >>>>>>> On Oct 4, 8:46 pm, Timothy Perrett<timo...@getintheloop.eu>
> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> Guys,
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>> Of late i've been having several discussions with people
> > > >>>>>>>> about how
> > > >>>>>>>> theydeploythere lift apps... So, how do youdeployyours?
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>> Specifically, how are people managing multiple apps in one
> > > >>>>>>>> install of
> > > >>>>>>>> jetty? Or, alternatively, how are you embedded jetty so you
> > > >>>>>>>> have an
> > > >>>>>>>> executable JAR?
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>> Im using Winstone for apps that dont use Comet because the
> > > >>>>>>>> package is
> > > >>>>>>>> so slick (thanks DavidB), but now, I really really want
> > to be
> > > >>>>>>>> able to
> > > >>>>>>>> embed jetty so I have an executable JAR in the same vein as
> > > >>>>>>>> Winstone.
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>> As time moves on, I feel like this is more and more
> > important
> > > >>>>>>>> and we
> > > >>>>>>>> dont current have a defined path for n00bs.
> > >
> > > >>>>>>>> Cheers, Tim
> > >
> > > >>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>> Viktor Klang
> > >
> > > >>>>>> Blog: klangism.blogspot.com
> > > >>>>>> Twttr: viktorklang
> > >
> > > >>>>>> Lift Committer - liftweb.com
> > > >>>>>> AKKA Committer - akkasource.org
> > > >>>>>> Cassidy - github.com/viktorklang/Cassidy.git
> > > >>>>>> SoftPub founder:http://groups.google.com/group/softpub
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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