WYSIWYG ("What You See Is What You Get") is often more accurately described
as "What You See Is ALL You Get".

Lilypond, like LaTeX, preserves the *semantic* qualities of your document,
which in music is incredibly important.  Personally, I've used text-based
notation software for a long time, and in most cases, they're much more
efficient and accurate than the WYSIWYG programs, but predictably have a
steeper learning curve.  And I say "steeper", but not insurmountable.
Music is mathematical and there are no shortcuts.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 10:31 AM Lucas Pinke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Peter Frise's video is sure a great reminder for WYSIWYG users that there
> is an alternative, and that this alternative is not much of an hassle to
> switch to.
>
> However, I've found it funny when he complains about adding extensions to
> chords when it is only a few pages down on the chord documentation.... Or
> even adding the instrument name.
>
> For the basics, beginners can rely on the docs, stackoverflow, this public
> mailing list or even AI. I remember watching Sound from Sounds' videos on
> Lilypond during the pandemic; they sure helped a lot.
>
> But when it comes to more intermediate to advanced features, the docs are
> a bit confusing to a developing user. They don't explain much as needed, or
> would throw the user to another dense topic (like functions and Scheme).
> When push came to shove, I've had to come to this mailing list (which isn't
> immediate) or to AI (which might not always be right).
>
> I don't think Lilypond or Frescobaldi need to be changed. I guess the docs
> could be jacked up a bit, specially because more "plain PC users" might get
> frustrated with the "change of pace" and strangeness of a text based
> software.
>
> Em qua., 24 de set. de 2025, 03:56, Silvain Dupertuis <
> [email protected]> escreveu:
>
>> If anyone is interested, I can share *this webpage
>> <https://perso.silvain-dupertuis.org/util/Clavier_musical.html>* 
>> (HTML+css+Javascript)
>> with a piano keyboard entry for several systems, including Lilypond English
>> and French,
>> that I use regularly to enter sequences of notes and paste them into
>> Frescobaldi.
>>
>> One chooses the notation system and the key first and then enter the
>> lengths (when needed) and the notes
>>
>> This page is written in French, but it would be easy to make an English
>> version.
>>
>> I can share the files if anyone is interested.
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>> Silvain
>>
>>
>> Le 23.09.25 à 22:36, Simon Albrecht a écrit :
>>
>> On 23.09.25 18:59, Jeff Kopmanis wrote:
>>
>> The _only_ thing I have yet to accomplish with Lilypond are jazz falls
>> and lip-ups.  I'm sure they're possible, but doing it manually is
>> prohibitive.
>>
>>
>> Not my area of expertise. “Falls and doits” using \bendAfter? NR 3.2.4
>>
>> HTH, Simon
>>
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>>
>

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