I feel very grateful to  the volunteers who maintain the site. As far as I
am concerned, it's their choice.

On Sat, Nov 19, 2022, 1:07 PM V Saleme <bmwkbi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Vbulletin forums is generally considered the standard, by which all other
> forms of groupware, threading and communication within a legible format are
> measured-
>
> Very inexpensive, hosting fees are negligible and will certainly get us
> away from the 1990s in a hurry.
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 9:19 AM Leslie Turek <leslie.tu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> My experience with Google Groups is that you don't need to have a Google
>> account to send and receive email from a group. To people without Google
>> accounts, it would seem very much like the current system we have. People
>> with Google accounts would be able to log into the group to see past
>> messages. I think it would be fairly easy to switch to Google groups if the
>> administrators wanted to do so.
>>
>> Slack, on the other hand, would be a bigger step for people who are used
>> to email. Younger people often use it in their workplaces, so are familiar
>> with it, but for older people there's a bit of a learning curve and I think
>> switching to it would lose a significant part of our current community.
>>
>> Leslie Turek
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 8:21 AM Laura Koller <laura.kol...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, all, for your comments. This appears to be a non-starter,
>>> especially with the Community Center topic taking over much of the
>>> discussion at present. I will just add that if we were to use Slack, Google
>>> Groups or anything similar, I think it would be easy enough to just leave
>>> it open on one's desktop or other device. To be clear: I don't know who
>>> "owns" LT, but I greatly appreciate the effort required to run it,
>>> troubleshoot, etc. Thank you, LT runner(s)!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:22 PM June L Matthews <matth...@mit.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Andrew. I agree.  I get lots of email from various sources, and
>>>> it’s convenient to have LT in there with the rest.  If I had to log in
>>>> somewhere else, I just might not do it.  But I also agree with the person
>>>> who complained about the long email threads and the difficulty of figuring
>>>> out who was replying to whom and on what topic.  But this is an issue
>>>> mainly during a (complicated) discussion, such as the ongoing one on the
>>>> community center.  Although I suppose LT could be improved, I don’t think
>>>> that it’s really “broken” so let’s not try to fix it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> June Matthews
>>>>
>>>> Greenridge Lane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> *On Behalf Of *ANDREW
>>>> PANG
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 14, 2022 2:09 PM
>>>> *To:* Jonathan Sheffi <jshe...@gmail.com>; Laura Koller <
>>>> laura.kol...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Cc:* lincoln@lincolntalk.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Slack instead of Mailman?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If using Google Groups or Groups.io requires having a Google account
>>>> and logging in to that, no thanks.  As with Slack, that is an extra step,
>>>> and an extra place to go to read the LT messages.  The beauty of the
>>>> email-based list is that it's right in with other daily communication.  It
>>>> is so basic that it works for all, whereas I suspect any "other 'modern'
>>>> group communication platform" may require a subscription, which is a
>>>> turnoff, regardless if it is free.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know some people are logged in to Google all the time, but not
>>>> everyone wants to do that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Pang
>>>>
>>>> Brooks Hill Road
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/14/2022 1:34 PM Jonathan Sheffi <jshe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I love Slack. My wife and I have a private Slack server for running our
>>>> household. But everyone knows how to use email -- I think a lot of folks
>>>> who aren't used to Slack might struggle to use it, and community engagement
>>>> would decrease.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That said, I definitely agree that the current Mailman infrastructure
>>>> is badly outdated and we should leave for a better service. I would suggest
>>>> migrating us from Mailman to either Google Groups or Groups.io. There are
>>>> migration tools so that we wouldn't lose the archive, plus everything would
>>>> become searchable and easier to navigate.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who actually runs the infrastructure for LT anyway? 🤔
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 12:31 PM Laura Koller <laura.kol...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Could consideration be made for replacing the LincolnTalk listserv's
>>>> antiquated format with Slack, or some other "modern" group communication
>>>> platform? I find that the repetition of content makes these messages
>>>> unwieldy and quite challenging to read through to find the non-repeated
>>>> content. Thanks for considering this; any thoughts?
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Laura Koller
>>>>
>>>> laura.kol...@gmail.com
>>>>
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