Hey! that was my very first job using VM! VM/SP 2 on a 4331 with 3370 FBA devices emulating 3310's for the SSX/VSE guest! 0.3 Mips whether you needed it or not.
"Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back." -Piet Hein, Journal of Irreproducible Results March, 1971 Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D VM Technical SErvices, The Boeing Company, (425)865-5940 > ---------- > From: David Goodenough > Reply To: Linux on 390 Port > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: IBM announces LINUX-only 1 to 4 engine zSeries > > Worse than VM/IS and the 9370, a little before that there was the 4331 > with > SSX, a packaged version of DOS/VSE. That also made similar claims about a > secretary being able to install it, and so we put it to the test. Having > read the manual we knew that it would format any drives it found, so we > physically disconnected all the ones with real data on them. Then we let > her loose, and actually apart from one question about the name of a key on > the keyboard (I think it was space which she knew as a blank or the like) > she succeeded. DOS/VSE had been hidden behind a paper thin venear of > panels, and it worked quite will, until the real DOS/VSE broke through > when > something went wrong. Then you needed a real VSE sysprog. It was a bit > like the saying about GUIs, they make easy things easy, and difficult > things impossible. Well SSX made easy things easy, but left you high and > dry when it went wrong. > > > > > "Wolfe, Gordon W" > <gordon.w.wolfe@b To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > oeing.com> cc: > Sent by: Linux on Subject: Re: IBM > announces LINUX-only 1 to 4 engine zSeries > 390 Port > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > IST.EDU> > > > 01/28/02 09:39 PM > Please respond to > Linux on 390 Port > > > > > > > >run Linux under z/VM V4. The comments in the > > announcement about not needing traditional skills... > > > Reminds me of 1987 when IBM announced the 9370 and VM/IS. Ads were > something like "Your Secretary can install it and run it". True. But if > you EVER needed to change it, say to add more DASD or to grant a privilege > to a user, THEN you needed a systems programmer! That's how I got this > job. > > "Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back." > -Piet Hein, Journal of Irreproducible Results March, 1971 > Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D > VM Technical SErvices, The Boeing Company, (425)865-5940 > > > ---------- > > From: Jim Elliott > > Reply To: Linux on 390 Port > > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 12:43 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: IBM announces LINUX-only 1 to 4 engine zSeries > > > > To clarify some mis-conceptions on the list, you get the full z/VM V4 > > product with the zSeries Linux Offering. As Ross stated, these machines > > only have IFLs and only run in LPAR mode. You can run Linux directly in > > the LPARs or you can run Linux under z/VM V4. The comments in the > > announcement about not needing traditional skills relate to your being > > able to use the "default install" option of z/VM and then using the z/VM > > System Administration Facilty. This is NOT another VIF. > > > > It is my personal expectation that while customers without VM skills > > will start this way, they will quickly want to develop VM skills so they > > can take advantage of the full function provided by z/VM V4! > > > > Regards, Jim Elliott - Linux Advocate, IBM Canada Ltd. > > > > > >