No hardware hipersockets doesn't necessarily mean that you can't use the guest LAN. Are you using the evaluation version of SuSE 7.2 or are you using the old SuSE with the 2.2.16 kernel? If the former you can define a guest LAN and set up SuSE to use it. If the latter, then you are definitely stuck using point to point.
On Friday 08 November 2002 09:12 am, you wrote: > 9672, so no hiper-sockets. In trial mode, so no money to buy a distribution > or support, but with the potential to do so if / when it goes into > production. Potentially running DB2 and WebSphere, so SuSE instead of > RedHat, as IBM supports SuSE more so than RedHat, in our experience. > > I'd like to work within the confines I have. > > ---- > Robert P. Nix internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mayo Clinic phone: 507-284-0844 > 200 1st St. SW page: 507-255-3450 > Rochester, MN 55905 > ---- > "In theory, theory and practice are the same, > but in practice, theory and practice are different." > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adam Thornton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:59 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Virtual network topology questions... > > > > On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 08:44:20AM -0600, Nix, Robert P. wrote: > > > Given an IFL running zVM and several Linux/390 images, is it better to > > > fan out to all the Linux images from zVM's TCPIP, or should TCPIP talk > > > to a selection of images, with these images each handling several end > > > machines, more like a tree structure? What would be the advantages and > > > disadvantages of either method, and is there a "break-even" point below > > > which you'd want to fan from TCPIP, but above which you'd want "helper" > > > images? > > > > I'd say that the answer is "none of the above." > > > > Which version of z/VM? If at all possible, use a guest LAN. It makes > > your life a *whole* lot simpler. If you can't, I'd say use about six > > downstream Linux images per upstream router; IUCV is theoretically > > faster, but I have found CTC somewhat easier to configure. > > > > Now, you're using SuSE, so that may be a stumbling block too. IIRC, the > > totally-free version (beer, not speech, for those of you keeping score > > at home) of SuSE doesn't do HiperSockets. But if you have either the > > $500 trial or a support contract then you have access to the service > > releases, which do let you use HiperSockets. And if you don't, then > > (IMHO) you shouldn't be using SuSE--if you're going to be your own > > support, you may as well be your own support with a less antiquated > > distribution. I'm going to surprise exactly no one by saying here, > > "Debian." Largely because I haven't played with RH in a long time, and > > I know that Debian works just fine (albeit taintedly) with the qeth > > drivers and guest LANs. To wit: -- Rich Smrcina Sytek Services, Inc. Milwaukee, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! Stay for Requirements and the Free for All! Update your S/390 skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2003 in Winston-Salem, NC. April 25-29, 2003 For details see http://www.wavv.org