I got this after I sent my last post. Being a z/OS Unix user, I sure *wish* conversions would consistently do EBCDIC NL (x'15') to/from ASCII LF (x'0A') instead of EBCDIC NL to/from ISO8859-1 NEL (x'85'), even though I can understand why that might not be technically correct. Or that z/OS Unix would've used LF (x'25') as its line-end character.
I don't have any access to z/VM BFS and Unix. What do they use for line-end? And what's the proper terminology for that question? Thanks- Douglas Wooster On 07/10/2008 12:01:45 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > On Thursday, 07/10/2008 at 11:48 EDT, "Fargusson.Alan" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > NEL is defined in ISO8859-1 as code point 0x85. In 8859-1 there > > are control characters in the range of 0x80 to 0x9f as well as > > 0x00 to 0x1f. Lots of documentation on 8859-1 skip the control > > characters, so many folks don't realize this. > > > > I assume that NL is short for newline. A newline is the same > > thing as a linefeed or LF in Unix and Linux. It is just a > > different name for the same thing. In EBCDIC codepage 1047 > > there is a newline at codepoint 15 and a linefeed at codepoint > > 25. This leads to some confusion in various conversion tables. > > To add to the confusion z/OS Unix uses newline (15) as the end > > of line. So if you convert linefeed to linefeed when converting > > from 8859-1 things don't work. Because of this many EBCDIC to > > 8859-1 conversion tables convert newline to linefeed, and > > linefeed to NEL. > > > > Have I mentioned my intense dislike for EBCDIC before? > > :-) I find the myriad codepages in EBCDIC and ASCII to be annoying. > Unicode is far, far simpler. As soon as we get all the hardware and > the software updated, and don't have to worry about compatibility > with old hardware and software, things will be better! It's too bad > that only our children's children will be able to experience it! ;-) > > Thanks for the information. For some reason (age? naah...) I failed > to notice NEL in my copy of ISO 8859-1!! > > Alan Altmark > z/VM Development > IBM Endicott ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
