Linux-Advocacy Digest #85, Volume #26 Tue, 11 Apr 00 23:13:34 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windows IS the dominant corporate OS ("Rich Cloutier")
Re: BSD & Linux (Timothy Murphy)
Re: Looking forward to Apple's MacOX X (M. Vaughn)
Re: For the WinTrolls - incredible (david parsons)
Re: For the WinTrolls - incredible (david parsons)
Re: Comparison between Linux and FreeBSD! (david parsons)
Re: 2000: Hammer blows to the Micro$oft machine! (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: about alt.linux.sucks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windows IS the dominant corporate OS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux for a web developer (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: InstallShield coming to Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Windows 2000: nothing worse (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux for a web developer (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Now well OT Communism v Marxism (was: Introduction to Linux article for
commentary) (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: We need an Xsetiathome!! (abraxas)
I have a dream! (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Linux stocks soar in aftermarket trading (Dale A Cook)
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From: "Rich Cloutier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows IS the dominant corporate OS
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:10:29 -0400
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Joseph Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Windows will remain the dominant corporate operating system because it
has
> > some features/frameworks that would make it easier for enterprise wide
> > computing. For instance, DAO, ADO and COM. These frameworks that to the
best
> > of my knowlede only exists on the Windows platform put them at an
advantage
> > over the competition. For corporate IT managers what matters most in an
OS
> > is not its quality or performance. I wouldn't say that this doesn't
matter,
> > but its just not the most important. What is the most important is
whether
> > or not its serves your enterprise needs for: database access, network
> > support and distributed computing. ADO and DAO serves the purpose of
making
> > database access easy to accomplish in Windows systems. COM is
Microsoft's
> > model for interprocess communications and distributed computing. ADO and
DAO
> > gives you an extra layer of abstraction when dealing with your database.
> > This means that you don't have to worry that much about lower level
details
> > when making a program to manipulate your database. Your data could be on
a
> > server in the next room or located in some little known server somewhere
it
> > Timbuktu in doesn't matter. You can access your data in the same
fashion.
> > Another advantage of DAO and ADO is the standardisation of data
accessing.
> > This means similar programs which also uses DAO and ADO can talk to each
> > other via COM. This allows for rapid application development which also
> > matters a lot in the corporate environment. From the above reasons, I
think
> > the enthusiasm over Linux and overly optimistic and overhyped.
Microsoft,
> > because of its better supporting frameworks and protocols still has the
> > upperhand as far as the big corporate guys are concerned.
>
> How did us UNIX users ever manage to create the world's largetst
> network (ie, distributed system) without all these buzzwords?
>
> It boggles the mind...
>
> :o)
>
I guess Al Gore didn't know anything about Microsoft's COM DOO-DADs!
-- Rich C.
"Great minds discuss ideas.
Average minds discuss events.
Small minds discuss people."
> --
> The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.openbsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc
Subject: Re: BSD & Linux
Date: 12 Apr 2000 02:05:02 +0100
jd hendrex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Linus wrote the kernel (and still maintains) and put it out for others...
>Richard Stalman (MIT) started the GNU movement with a printer driver...
>Thousands of others the entire world over have since contributed...
>And the beat goes on...
I'm surprised at the way Minix has been written out of history.
Linux started life as a Minix variant, in effect.
Linus Torvalds had to use gcc, probably,
because the Minix cc was the one commercial bit of Minix --
bizarrely, as it was not particularly good.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: 086-233 6090
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Vaughn)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Looking forward to Apple's MacOX X
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:18:12 -0500
> We need to see a rich, integrated, and
> consistent UI on MacOS X, so that Linux hackers can see it ... and then
> try for something better.
>
And fail due to the fact that while Apple can pay trained designers a
shitload of money to desigh such an interface, the people who try to
one-up them in the freenix development communities are going to be working
for nothing and under little real management. Open-source GUIs, so far,
look like they were designed by a committee because THEY ARE. Every UI I
have used on Linux or FreeBSD (besides the command line) is a
feature-laden (or leaden, if you will) beast that lacks any sort of
consistency or real flair.
--
Clinton Bomb Assasinate Federal Cocaine
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (david parsons)
Subject: Re: For the WinTrolls - incredible
Date: 11 Apr 2000 17:05:36 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Terry Porter <No-Spam> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:48:17 GMT,
> George Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>George Russell
>>(Soon to go to FreeBSD 4.0
>As a desktop ?
FreeBSD (of almost any sort) makes a good desktop; userland is more
unix-standard than just about any Linux distribution, it runs almost
all of the X stuff out there, and there's a Linux emulator so you
can run commercial apps. Administratively, it's a bit more
primitive, and there are a few small gaping holes for using it as
a server, but if you're used to the commercial Unices it's a big
step forward.
____
david parsons \bi/ Bummer its nfs performance is so sucky :-(
\/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (david parsons)
Subject: Re: For the WinTrolls - incredible
Date: 11 Apr 2000 17:33:22 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Try running News offline...
... leafnode may be close to what you want. It's not the same as
those dos newsreaders from the days when phone connections were
metered, but it at least works. When my phone connections were
metered, I used UUCP to get from DOS to the outside world.
>Try using a SoundBlaster Live...
... I can't comment on this. Some people apparently do use a SB Live,
since I've seen commentary in reputable newsgroups about them.
>Try using
>off the shelf hardware...
... do you have any hardware in mind? Last week, I bought a wad of
Wavelan/IEEE wireless cards, and installed a bunch of them into
Linux machines. I tried to install one into a Windows box, but it
would never bother to do dhcp through that card. (Certainly if I
was going to complain about Linux's hardware compatability, I'd
need to find a system that does it better. I have -- FreeBSD --
but that's an alternative that would make your brain explode.)
>Try using a non-win/non postscript
>printer...
... ok. Is there anything I should be noticing, aside from the
poor deskjet being so old that it's having trouble firing on all
cylinders?
____
david parsons \bi/ But, wait, we've been through this before, and
\/ you had to resort to pretending to be Jedi.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (david parsons)
Subject: Re: Comparison between Linux and FreeBSD!
Date: 11 Apr 2000 18:00:22 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andy Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>david parsons wrote:
>> And why is this? I don't know, though I strongly suspect that, even
>> with softupdates on, FreeBSD's annoying habit of forcing sync writes
>> on nfs traffic is what's making nfs performance slower. In any case,
>> it means that freeBSD ends up being tucked into the corners of
>> my network where speed isn't all that important :-(
>
>Well softupdates has nothing to do with NFS, but...
>
>There was a post to freebsd-hackers recently (past week or so)
>where someone had fallen over what sounds like the same issue.
>The NFSv3 code was sending NFS commit ops every 64K or so. He
>modified it to not do so and sped up his I/O by a factor of
>three to four or so ... Quote from the mail,
Yes, but that's with a FreeBSD client mounting v3 on a sun
server :-(
I found an exchange between Matt Dillon and Terry Lambert
about v3 with a FreeBSD SERVER, but I don't know if any
of that code has made it into -current (I suspect it has)
or if it will work with v2 (I suspect it won't).
____
david parsons \bi/ And Linux 2.3.99 is helping define ``unstable
\/ development kernel'', too. Sigh.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: 2000: Hammer blows to the Micro$oft machine!
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:37:33 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Bloody Viking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote on Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:25:45 GMT
<dREI4.5287$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In alt.destroy.microsoft Christopher Browne
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: a) No, Adobe never bought it. They *created* it. The definitive books
>: on PS are produced by Adobe. The specs are produced by Adobe.
>
>Damn. I guess we're stuck with .HTML as a file format, since we need an
>open format. Whatever the format we're stuck with, any word processor will
>have to read it, convert to an internal format, and write to files
>whatever format we're stuck with.
>
>And Adobe is guilty of the lame old game of extending Postcript to force
>lock-in with .PDF format. Apparently, history shows that format lock-in is
>an inevitable result of commercial software. We see it with Microsoft
>(about their only innovation), Adobe with .PDF, and Netscrape with the
>.HTML.
What's wrong with SGML, TeX, groff, or even just plain old ASCII? :-)
SGML - convertable to just about anything, although the results may
not be optimal in all cases
TeX - highly flexible, but not WYSIWYG -- but then, WYSIWYG might be
slightly overrated
groff - ancient, but still usable for e.g. man pages
ASCII - no formatting, monospace, but understood by just about everyone
in the Latin countries; there may be some issues with
the Asian and Arabian ones, however.
HTML is a poor language for typesetting; among other things, there's
no elegant method to break pages. (Of course, that wasn't one
of its primary design priorities, either. :-) ) It does have
extensibility, however -- one can add e.g. <PAGE> with little difficulty;
the only issue would be that more standard browsers will ignore it,
which may yield unexpected results. (Can't be any worse than it
is now -- "lessee, is it IE 3, IE 4, NS 4, NS 5, or NS 6?" :-) )
Or you can use the Encapsulated PostScript subset as documented
in e.g. Adobe's PostScript Reference Manual -- I think Ghostscript
does exactly this. There are problems with PostScript -- the chief
one being that it's a typesetting language, not a word processing
one, which means extracting plaintext from it is nontrivial (I have
a generator for instance that moves and prints a letter at a time
after computing the position via supplied metrics files) -- but it's
probably the easiest to send to a printer. :-)
Perhaps I'm missing the point? :-)
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: about alt.linux.sucks
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:28:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Cihl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got alt.linux.sucks in my subscriptions, but
> there have been no additional posts for the last
> several days. Is something wrong with my ISP, or
> doesn't Linux 'suck' anymore!
No. As any fool knows, comp.os.linux.advocacy is the appropriate
newsgroup for Linux bashers. Anything else is redundant.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Windows IS the dominant corporate OS
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:30:10 GMT
You don't read Dilbert, do you?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Linux for a web developer
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:44:16 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote on 11 Apr 2000 17:06:23 -0400 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:44:02 +0200, Mig Mig wrote:
>
>>I wouldnt recommend switching to Linux if you want to do web development
>>with it. The tools needed are not there... actually not even an editor of
>>the quality of HomeSite exists..and of course graphic tools like
>
>You are confusing "web development" with "click and drool", "web design"
>and "content editing". They are different.
>
>Real web developers write all their code in perl.
Well, not *all* of it. Some of the "code" has to be HTML,
after all... :-)
>
>Quality editor ? Text editors are much more powerful than these
>idiot-friendly click and drool things. However, there's Composer
>for those who really must click & drool.
Netscape Composer's one of the better ones, IMO. Not only does it
do the usual typey typey stuff, it also has the ability to manipulate,
albeit in a limited fashion, tags which it doesn't understand
(these are displayed in bright yellow).
It also allows the user to directly edit the source code -- which is
handy for e.g., doing nested lists, as Composer isn't real good at
doing nested lists.
And the HTML generated, apart from a few peculiar quirks (like
converting *everything* in a <PRE> ... </PRE>!), is reasonable.
Microsoft Word loves to stick in "style='junk'" stuff *everywhere*.
It's a pain.
But, for those of us that are hardcore, there's always good old vi
and lynx. :-)
>
>--
>Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: InstallShield coming to Linux
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:39:25 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Through this joint effort between InstallShield and IBM, end users of
> IBM software and ISV applications running on AIX, AS/400, Linux, OS/2,
> Project Monterey and Solaris platforms will receive the same
consistent,
> easy-to-use installation experience InstallShield currently provides
for
>
> Windows users".
Oh joy. Now we Linux users can finally have an installer that wreaks as
much havoc and commits as much wholesale destruction with the OS as
Windows users. I can hardly wait.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows 2000: nothing worse
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:55:23 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Jim Dabell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote on Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:45:55 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
[snip for brevity]
>How does Windows achieve root FS encryption? Or don't they tell you?
It's a secret. :-)
>Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: BOOKS ON LINUX ?
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:50:12 GMT
In article <8cjpnu$i1t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8cjf17$7vp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <8ciap4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve) writes:
> > > I think that the problem with books about Linux is that the
subject is
> > > changing far to fast for most books being useful for more than one
or
> > > two years. <snippage>
> >
> > Well, in that case any book on Windows is only good for about
> > forty-eight hours.
>
> That's absolutely untrue. I once had a Windows book that was good for
TWO
> SOLID WEEKS. If I've told you once, I've told you HUNDREDS of
THOUSANDS of
> times - Don't exaggerate.
I'm sorry. I won't do it again, I promise. Cross my heart and hope to
die a million times.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Subject: Re: Linux for a web developer
Date: 11 Apr 2000 22:07:15 -0400
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:26:37 -0400, Rich Cloutier wrote:
>"OOrkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>If you can swing it, I would recommend two computers:
>
>One Linux box to host your sites and to test using the Linux versions of
>various web browsers; and,
>
>One Windows box to test with what most people will see your sites with:
>namely, Internet Explorer.
Option two: one box + VmWare. Run Windows in the VMWare sandbox and visit
your site.
>Contrary to what some here will undoubtedly say, you CAN use a graphical
>tool such as FrontPage or PageMill to design content.
Wrong. You don't "design" content.
This is exactly why these "WYSIWYG" tools are bad news -- they make it
all too easy to confuse presentation and content.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Now well OT Communism v Marxism (was: Introduction to Linux article for
commentary)
Date: 11 Apr 2000 22:12:29 -0400
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:02:42 GMT, John Hasler wrote:
>> The countries that come closest to getting what Marx wanted are leftist
>> democracies, and the changes were evolutionary ( as opposed to
>> revolutionary ) and invariably came about by way of a democratic process.
>
>"Democratic government" is as much of an oxymoron as "communist country".
How so ? Choose your favourite definition of "democracy" or "democratic",
and explain your viewpoint.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Subject: Re: We need an Xsetiathome!!
Date: 12 Apr 2000 02:19:10 GMT
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> abraxas wrote:
>>
>> mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > I have the Windows version of setiathome running on my NT box. I have to
>> > say, I think it is fairly cool to watch. I would like to see a KDE or
>> > GNOME version of that, what do you think?
>>
>> It already exists in various and sundry forms, including a windowmaker
>> docapp.
>>
>> You should have really known that. :)
>>
>> -----yttrx
> WHERE???
Check out tucows under linux for SETI clients, theres quite a number of
them for linux (most are overlays for the well-known command-line
client)...
The windowmaker docapp is here:
http://goupilfr.org/creations/?action=c&prog=wmsetimon
=====yttrx
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From: Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I have a dream!
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:20:11 GMT
Ten years ago, a great Finnlander, in whose symbolic shadow we stand
signed the Linux Kernel. This
momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of
windows slaves who had been seared in the flames of
withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night
of captivity.
But ten years later, we must face the tragic fact that the windows user
is still not free. Ten years later, the life of the
windows user is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and
the chains of discrimination. Ten years later, the windows user
lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of
material prosperity. Ten years later, the windows user is still
languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an
exile in his own land. So we have come here today to
dramatize an appalling condition.
In a sense we have come to our nation's Linux usenet to cash a check.
When the architects of our os wrote the magnificent
words of the GNU constitution and the GNU public license, they were
signing a promissory note to which every American
was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all p.c. users would be
guaranteed the inalienable rights of no-rebooting, support of new
hardware,
and the pursuit of free applications.
It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note
insofar as her windows users are concerned. Instead of
honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the windows users a
bad check which has come back marked "X1EFBDA 3FFE78h."
But we refuse to believe that the blue screen of justice is bankrupt. We
refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the
great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to cash this
check -- a check that will give us upon demand the
riches of power p.c. and the security of sparc 64. We have also come to
this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency
of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to
take the tranquilizing drug of W2K. Now is the time to
rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path
of multitasking maddness. Now is the time to open the doors of
opportunity to all of our p.c. users. Now is the time to lift our nation
from the quicksands of license fee injustice to the solid rock of
2.2.14.
It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment
and to underestimate the determination of the windows user. This
sweltering summer of the window user's legitimate discontent will not
pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and
equality. Nineteen ninty-one is not an end, but a beginning. Those who
hope that the windows user needed to blow off steam and will
now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to
business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in
America until the windows user is granted his free FTP download. The
whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our
nation until the bright day of the free CD emerges.
But there is something that I must say to my users who stand on the warm
threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In
the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of
wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom
by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.
We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and
discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to
degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the
majestic heights of meeting physical force with multitasking
force. The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the windows
community must not lead us to distrust of all Linux users, for
many of our Linux users, as evidenced by their presence here today, have
come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our
destiny and their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom. We
cannot afford the price of our next upgrade!
And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall march ahead. We
cannot turn back. There are those who are asking the
devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be
satisfied as long as our screens get blue, harddrives filled up
so much, cannot gain access to the web because of our win-modem. We
cannot be satisfied as long as the
window user's basic mobility is from a smaller p.c. to a larger one, is
necessary! We can never be satisfied as long as a windows users
in Mississippi cannot connect and a windows user in New York believes he
has nothing for which to connect with. No, no, we are not satisfied,
and we will not be satisfied until bit's roll like bytes thru our linux
boxes via the righteousness and mighty dvd.
I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials
and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from
narrow cells. Some of you have come from areas where your quest for
freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution
and staggered by the winds of screems from the re-boots. You have been
the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith
that unearned suffering is redemptive.
Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to Georgia, go back
to Louisiana, go back to the cable modems and dsl of our
northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be
changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of repair.
I say to you today, my friends, that in spite of the difficulties and
frustrations of the moment, I still have a dream. It is a dream
deeply rooted in the American dream.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the
true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be
self-evident: that all os software is not created equal."
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of
former windows users and the sons of former backoffice owners will be
able
to sit down together at a table of routerhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a desert
state, sweltering with the heat of injustice and oppression,
will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and optimum up times.
I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where
they will not be judged by the price of their p.c.'s but by the
linux distribution they run.
I have a dream today.
I have a dream that one day the state of Alabama, whose governor's lips
are presently dripping with the words of interposition
and nullification, will be transformed into a situation where little
boys and girls will be able to network correctly with other little
boys and girls without the aide of vi.
I have a dream today.
I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill
and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be
made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory
of the Lord shall be revealed, and even the government will agree,
we will all linux together.
This is our hope. This is the faith with which I return to the South.
With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of
despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform
the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony
of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to
pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to
stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.
This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing
with a new meaning, "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of
liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers Unixed, land of the
pilgrim's distribution, from every mountainside, let freedom be fully
distributable
and modifyable."
And if America is to be a great nation this must become true. So let
freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.
Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring
from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania!
Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado!
Let freedom ring from the curvaceous peaks of California!
But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia!
Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee!
Let freedom ring from every hill and every molehill of Mississippi. From
every mountainside, let freedom ring.
And let freedom ring at Redmond Washington!
When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and
every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be
able to speed up that day when all of God's children, linux users who
believe in open source,
will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old windows
spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are
free at last!"
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From: Dale A Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux stocks soar in aftermarket trading
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:33:53 -0400
ax wrote:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8cjf4m$87c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > HEADLINES!
> >
> > Microsoft stocks plummet! Investors jumping out of Windows!
> >
>
> HEADLINES!
>
> Linux stocks plummet! Investors jumping out of XWindows!
>
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
JESUS!
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