Linux-Advocacy Digest #168, Volume #26           Mon, 17 Apr 00 10:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: uptime -> /dev/null (Darren Winsper)
  Re: New Linux User Question ("Bobby D. Bryant")
  Re: Athlon (Strider Centaur)
  Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!! ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Forget buying drestin UNIX. Buy him a memory (was Re: Detonators 5.14 
UP!!!!!!!!) ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!! ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!! ("Drestin Black")
  Re: New Linux User Question (The Cat)
  Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU!  MICROSOFT IS THRU! ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Rumors ... (abraxas)
  Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU!  MICROSOFT IS THRU! ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Backdoors in Windows 2000 or server software? ("Drestin Black")
  Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (abraxas)
  Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] (abraxas)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Winsper)
Subject: Re: uptime -> /dev/null
Date: 17 Apr 2000 13:10:04 GMT

On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:33:26 GMT, Pedro Ballester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Except that a desktop user need not apply each case.
> 
>    Agree, but almost each case; anyway, tell me any Linvocate (me
> included) that does not install avery patch falling in its hands :)

I compile a new kernel pretty much as soon as I find out a new one's
out.  However, I don't reboot until I need to, so I often never
actually use a good number of the ones I compile.

-- 
Darren Winsper (El Capitano) - ICQ #8899775
Stellar Legacy project member - http://www.stellarlegacy.tsx.org
DVD boycotts.  Are you doing your bit?
This message was typed before a live studio audience.

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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Linux User Question
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:03:42 -0500

CG wrote:

> If you can afford it, I'd recommend you install linux on a second
> computer rather than do a dual boot.  I've found with dual boots that
> the boot-time is a big psychological barrier and discourages active
> use of both o/s's.

That's probably a good idea, but IMO dual booting isn't as bad as you make it
sound.  Windows users are accustomed to frequent reboots anyway.

However, I *would* suggest that about 2 weeks after installing a dual boot
system you should change the default boot to be Linux, so you'll start adopting
Linux as your psychological default as well.  Once you notice that reboots are
no longer needed for windowsy reasons you'll start resenting having to reboot
just to run such-and-such an app, and then you'll find yourself looking a bit
harder to find a suitable Linux replacement. That's when the real weaning
starts.

Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas



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From: Strider Centaur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hadrware,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Athlon
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:30:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

    We run Linux ( Mandrake 7.0 ) on a Athalon 500 here and it runs just
fine.



"Ralph H.Stoos Jr." wrote:

> To all you Linux fans,
>
> I have heard rumors and propaganda regarding the Athlon processor and
> Linux.
>
> Recent info says that you might need a special kernel for Linux to run
> properly on this CPU.
>
> Does anyone know conclusively is this is true?  I want to buy Athlon
> just to keep Intel from running the whole show and of course run Linux
> on it to keep Microsloth from owning the show and theatre both.
>
> Let me know if you would be so kind.
>
> Please respond to the group but add this address too:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanking you prematurely,
>
> Ralph

--
Strider Centaur
HTTP://www.Scifi-Fantay.com

   " It is my observation that unless you really understand the issues, you are
hardly in a position to criticize.   Nearly all Linux users have used Windows,
but very few Windows users have used Linux. " -- Me




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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:27:17 -0400

that's the best you can do eh?

Of course, cause you are dead wrong.

I talk about newsgroups and things like DeCSS and Napster and Gnutella from
the point of view of someone who actually uses the products to understand
them. Not from ignorance and press clippings and slash dot posts.

What are you doing reading about 5.14 drivers if you Mr. Legal man himself?
That's like being an accessory after the fact, in your view.


"Rob Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> laff
>
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:54:57 -0400, "Drestin Black"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :p.s., unless you can provide some documentation to:
> :"All things you've proclaimed loud and long
> :> that you will never touch, are completely opposed to, and further
stated
> :> that anyone stooping to such a level is lower than the lowest scum on
> :> earth."
> :
> :I will continue to have to consider you a liar and lying outloud in these
> :groups.
> :I never said such things and you are lying.
> :
> :"Rob Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> :news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :> Well, drestin, you should be able to access that on NVIDIA's site.
Since
> :> you've made several statements that you would never use anything
pirated
> :> or in any other way violating a copyright, and since these are
obviously
> :> leaked drivers, then unless you have signed an NDA you would be
> :> violating an NVIDIA copyright. So, you'll just go to NVIDIA's site as a
> :> registered developer with a signed NDA and a username/password, now,
> :> right? I mean, this isn't much different from the whole DeCSS copyright
> :> issue, pirated software, etc. All things you've proclaimed loud and
long
> :> that you will never touch, are completely opposed to, and further
stated
> :> that anyone stooping to such a level is lower than the lowest scum on
> :> earth.
> :>
> :> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:47:30 -0400, "Drestin Black"
> :> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
> :> :can anyone get the PDF file? Mine has a broken link.
> :> :
> :> :if so, can you post the proper link
> :> :
> :> :"Suzook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> :> :news:otMJ4.4523$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :> :> Here they are
> :> :>
> :> :> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bmsmit/
> :> :>
> :> :>
> :> :
> :>
> :>
> :>
> :> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> :> http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> :> -----==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
> :>
> :
>
>
>
> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> -----==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
>



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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Forget buying drestin UNIX. Buy him a memory (was Re: Detonators 5.14 
UP!!!!!!!!)
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:32:12 -0400

You could not be supider... you just don't get it.

I could explain it to you but you'll never get it - instead I'll just tell
you this factoid:

5.14 "leaked" drivers from nVidia?
It is NOT illegal to use these drivers.
Period.

Write nVidia yourself and see what they have to say about them. I have.

That totally nulifies your points - completely. Utterly.

If you aren't a linvocate and a W2K user then you should have respect for
someone who is "on your side" instead of throwing stupid attempts at insult
around. Using "leaked" drivers from nVidia (who intends for people to do
just what they are doing with them) does not even remotely compare with
outright piracy via DeCSS, Napster and Gnutella. These drivers are written
FOR the consumer and I'm one of them. nVidia has no problem with using them
so you are speaking from ignorance.

On the other hand, Napsters and especially Gnutella have no other use in
life other than the wholesale bootlegging of MP3s and other software. Try to
further impresses us now by trying to defend those piracy devices.

"Rob Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hokay, laffing boi, here we go:
>
>
http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=582727974&CONTEXT=955894517.1533345798&hitn
um=8
>
>
http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=584994737&CONTEXT=955894517.1533345798&hitn
um=11
>
>
http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=583419426&CONTEXT=955894517.1533345798&hitn
um=12
>
>
http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=583958058&CONTEXT=955894517.1533345798&hitn
um=13
>
>
http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=581992412&CONTEXT=955894517.1533345798&hitn
um=17
> (this one pretty much sums up his whole view on copyrighted material)
>
>
http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=575811841&CONTEXT=955894517.1533345798&hitn
um=22
>
>
http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=582634042&CONTEXT=955894517.1533345798&hitn
um=27
> (note drestin's stance on "licensing". also note that drestin was
> requesting information about unreleased, and therefore unlicensed
> drivers)
>
>
http://x31.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=582812581&CONTEXT=955894517.1533345798&hitn
um=32
> (touches on pirating)
>
> Some are more relevant than others, but I think we all get the idea....
> If you want to read all of drestin's musings on the
> linux/decss/piracy/copyright violation thing, look here:
>
http://x31.deja.com/dnquery.xp?search=next&DBS=1&[EMAIL PROTECTED]
spam%20AND%20decss&ST=MS&offsets=db2000p1%0217%01db99p10%024%01db2000p2%021%
01db2000p3%023&svcclass=dnserver&CONTEXT=955894517.1533345798
> The entire crux is that drestin states that "pirating is bad" and
> "violating copyrights is bad" and that "you shouldn't do that". So,
> drestin then turns around and asks for information about drivers to
> which he holds no license (unreleased drivers used against the creators
> wishes). NVIDIA has send cease and desist orders to web site posting
> their unreleased drivers, which I can certainly understand. I'm sure it
> must be increasing their support costs when some luser calls up with a
> broken beta driver wanting help, even if its only the 30 seconds or so
> it takes to explain that its an unreleased driver. Now you, drestin, can
> deny what you wrote all you want, as well as right me off as just
> another "crazy linvocate", which would be weird in and of itself, since
> I don't use linux and actually like w2k, but hey, you rationalize it any
> way that makes you feel better. Have a nice day...
>
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:54:57 -0400, "Drestin Black"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :p.s., unless you can provide some documentation to:
> :"All things you've proclaimed loud and long
> :> that you will never touch, are completely opposed to, and further
stated
> :> that anyone stooping to such a level is lower than the lowest scum on
> :> earth."
> :
> :I will continue to have to consider you a liar and lying outloud in these
> :groups.
> :I never said such things and you are lying.
> :
> :"Rob Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> :news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :> Well, drestin, you should be able to access that on NVIDIA's site.
Since
> :> you've made several statements that you would never use anything
pirated
> :> or in any other way violating a copyright, and since these are
obviously
> :> leaked drivers, then unless you have signed an NDA you would be
> :> violating an NVIDIA copyright. So, you'll just go to NVIDIA's site as a
> :> registered developer with a signed NDA and a username/password, now,
> :> right? I mean, this isn't much different from the whole DeCSS copyright
> :> issue, pirated software, etc. All things you've proclaimed loud and
long
> :> that you will never touch, are completely opposed to, and further
stated
> :> that anyone stooping to such a level is lower than the lowest scum on
> :> earth.
> :>
> :> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:47:30 -0400, "Drestin Black"
> :> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
> :> :can anyone get the PDF file? Mine has a broken link.
> :> :
> :> :if so, can you post the proper link
> :> :
> :> :"Suzook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> :> :news:otMJ4.4523$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :> :> Here they are
> :> :>
> :> :> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bmsmit/
> :> :>
> :> :>
> :> :
> :>
> :>
> :>
> :> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> :> http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> :> -----==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
> :>
> :
>
>
>
> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> -----==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
>




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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:32:45 -0400

again, as the 5.14 drivers are not pirated software or illegal to own or use
you are full of it.

get the facts right, you are talking apples and cadilacs

"Rob Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> oh.... must 've been another drestin black then. some drestin black went
> on endlessly about pirating software and the decss thing and such. i'll
> go get you deja references if you want, but I basically consider anyone
> insisting on such things pretty anal.
>
> On Sat, 15 Apr 2000 13:53:09 -0400, "Drestin Black"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> :Whatthe hell drugs are you on?
> :
> :I've NEVER said that I will never touch or are completely opposed to any
> :such things.
> :I am not a nVidia developer so do not have access to that site but if you
> :had half a brain and kept up on these things you'd know that in the case
of
> :these drivers "leaked" is what nVidia calls them so they don't have to
> :warranty them against frying your system. these are "leaked" regularly
and
> :the newsgroups and fan sites monitored for feedback. nvidia is fully
aware
> :of this and is not at all interested in stoping or slowing it - in fact,
> :they NEED the feedback. if nVidia didn't like it, you'd think they'd have
> :done anything against the 100s of sites that carry this material nice and
on
> :their front pages.
> :
> :This has nothing to do with DeCSS which is just plain stupid as are the
> :idiots who blindly try to defend what they barely understand.
> :
> :get a life...
> :
> :"Rob Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> :news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :> Well, drestin, you should be able to access that on NVIDIA's site.
Since
> :> you've made several statements that you would never use anything
pirated
> :> or in any other way violating a copyright, and since these are
obviously
> :> leaked drivers, then unless you have signed an NDA you would be
> :> violating an NVIDIA copyright. So, you'll just go to NVIDIA's site as a
> :> registered developer with a signed NDA and a username/password, now,
> :> right? I mean, this isn't much different from the whole DeCSS copyright
> :> issue, pirated software, etc. All things you've proclaimed loud and
long
> :> that you will never touch, are completely opposed to, and further
stated
> :> that anyone stooping to such a level is lower than the lowest scum on
> :> earth.
> :>
> :> On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:47:30 -0400, "Drestin Black"
> :> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
> :> :can anyone get the PDF file? Mine has a broken link.
> :> :
> :> :if so, can you post the proper link
> :> :
> :> :"Suzook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> :> :news:otMJ4.4523$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> :> :> Here they are
> :> :>
> :> :> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bmsmit/
> :> :>
> :> :>
> :> :
> :>
> :>
> :>
> :> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> :> http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> :> -----==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
> :>
> :
>
>
>
> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> -----==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----



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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Detonators 5.14 UP!!!!!!!!
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:33:52 -0400


"abraxas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ddan8$1k8d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy TiMOiD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Win2k TNT2 drivers (5.14) are still sucky... 5 minutes after a
restart,
> > oooh look a lovely BSOD. damn huh.
>
> Indeed they are.  They are absolutely the worst things ive ever seen.
I thought you never ran W2K

>
> They also absolutely prohibit directX taking full console control (full
screen
> mode).  They are a half-assed attempt at BEST.

On your machine, perhaps, but as I've been playing Unreal Tournament with
them for some time now I'd say it's definately not the case for everyone.

>
> Thanks microsoft, for yet more innovative and world changing code.

these drivers have NOTHING to do with MS whatsoever. Don't you even know
what you are talking about?




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From: The Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Linux User Question
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:38:18 GMT

I would suggest Mandrake 7.0 in one of the boxed versions. I say boxed
version because I believe that version comes with BootMagic/Partition
Magic which will make your re partitioning much easier. You can also
install directly from your Windows system.

http://www.linux-mandrake.com

Just make certain you write lilo to the root partition and not the mbr
(Master Boot Record). This way Bootmagic can point to it.

Make a Windows Startup diskette before you start so if you make an
error you can fix it. 

fdisk /mbr will put re-write the mbr on your default boot drive
(usually c:) if you screw up. This is one reason to make the
startup/rescue disk.

Most important is to take it slow and read the dialog boxes.

Give it a try and see for yourself why Linux is gaining popularity
while other systems are losing.

Good Luck..

TheCat





On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 00:35:03 -0700, "Tobias Adrianse"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Thank you all for your input.  Hearing more good then bad has given me more
>confidence in this decision.  I appreciate Charlie and Donovan's input.  I
>think the best thing for me to do would be to run 98 and Linux parrallel
>until I wean myself off altogether.
>
>Whats the best version Charlie?  There seems to be so many.  I heard red hat
>was good but these other posts suggest some I have never heard of.
>
>
>

"Agent under Wine and powered by Mandrake 7.0"

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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,alt.conspiracy.area51
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU!  MICROSOFT IS THRU!
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:35:21 -0400


"Glenn Valenta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message >
> How about the NSA backdoor in NT?
>
> Nobody seems to talk about that anymore.
>

Gee, maybe that is because it not there ...



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Rumors ...
Date: 17 Apr 2000 13:40:12 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 1)  The findings of law claim that neither Microsoft or it's OEM's believe
> that any other OS could viably be shipped by the OEM's in the "foreseeable
> future", yet many of those same OEM's are shipping Linux in both server and
> desktop configurations.

> 2)  The findings of fact claim that Microsoft deliberately embedded the
> browser into the shell for the sole reason of thwarting Netscape, yet
> Microsoft has memos going back to 1993 talking about their plans to
> integrate internet functionality into the OS and include an integrated WAIS
> engine.  That was almost a year before netscape even existed as a company.

Ohhh.  They have memos.

I see.

Well that just proves everything.




=====yttrx



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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.ms-windows.networking.tcp-ip,alt.conspiracy.area51
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT IT THRU!  MICROSOFT IS THRU!
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:34:48 -0400


"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Microsoft has been forced to admit they created secret back doors to every
> computer
> system they sold out the DOOR!

as Microsoft has NEVER sold a computer system ever I would say we are all
quite safe from whatever you are talking about.




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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Backdoors in Windows 2000 or server software?
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 09:36:20 -0400

The string found in that DLL in that version of FP98 for those types of
servers is not a backdoor.

Specific enough?


"Rob S. Wolfram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >This is entirely untrue - There IS NO BACKDOOR IN FRONTPAGE
>
> Oh? I take it you have a source license for Frontpage which enables you
> to verify that?
>
>
>http://www.ntbugtraq.com/default.asp?pid=36&sid=1&A2=ind0004&L=ntbugtraq&F=
&
> >S=&P=3354
>
> This does not implicate your statement above. Can you proof the absence
> of a backdoor in any way? I'd say the probability that there's a
> backdoor in Frontpage is about equal to the probability that there's a
> flight simulator in a spreadsheet ((c) Phil Hunt).
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
> --
> Rob S. Wolfram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  PGP 0x07606049  GPG 0xD61A655D
>    "The POP3 server service depends on the SMTP server service, which
>    failed to start because of the following error:
>    The operation completed successfully." -- Windows NT Server v3.51
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: 17 Apr 2000 13:41:31 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas) writes:

> ' > Fucking GOTO's all over the place.
> ' 
> ' Have you looked at the source for the linux kernel?

> david@Interloper:> pwd
> /usr/src/linux
> david@Interloper:> find . -name '*.c' -exec grep ' goto ' {} \; | wc
>     580    2212   19404 

> Color me surprised.  Some of those are in comments, BTW.  This is the
> 2.2.14 kernel from kernel.org.

Take a look at the comments, alot of those gotos were actually 
representative of ones that were removed.

And dont forget, seriously, gotos (though ragged and dirty) are very
fast. :)




=====yttrx


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (abraxas)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: 17 Apr 2000 13:43:08 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc abraxas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> Fucking GOTO's all over the place.

> : Have you looked at the source for the linux kernel?

> : Same thing.  

> : Theyre fast.

> dammit yttrx - I thought you hated linux, or at least 'preferred slowaris
> and Crapintosh'? :)

I dont hate linux, I use it at home and at work in great capacity...:)

I like solaris ALOT more, and well...macs have always been close to my heart.

:)

> To stay on topic - goto is an unconditional jump, and the compiler can
> optimize that better than a conditional jump

Exactamundo.




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