Linux-Advocacy Digest #866, Volume #26 Sat, 3 Jun 00 17:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Canada invites Microsoft north ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: New User here, and I think Linux Stinks! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: windoze 9x, what a piece of shit! ("James")
Re: windoze 9x, what a piece of shit! ("James")
Re: W2K BSOD's documented *not* to be hardware (Was: lack of goals. ("Christopher
Smith")
Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K ("Adam Ruth")
Re: New User here, and I think Linux Stinks! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: New User here, and I think Linux Stinks! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: The sad Linux story ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: HTML Help files (an updated set of man pages) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why We Should Be Nice To Windows Users -was- Neologism of the day (Gary Heston)
Re: Canada invites Microsoft north (Loren Petrich)
Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K (Mig Mig)
Re: Once again: Open-Source != Security; PGP Provides Example ("Colin R. Day")
Re: HTML Help files (an updated set of man pages) (Mig Mig)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Canada invites Microsoft north
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 20:21:47 GMT
John Wiltshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>iii) Most companies depend on MS software to run. Without a cheap
>upgrade path they have to fork out thousands of dollars per machine in
>training and testing for new operating systems. That will bankrupt a
>LOT of companies.
*Or* they could simply decide that they seem to be running just fine,
and that this whole "upgrade path" nonsense is something their competitors
may worry about. I suspect that would increase operating profits quite
dramatically for such companies.
Bernie
--
The man who doesn't read good books has no advantage over the man who
can't read them
Mark Twain
American writer, 1835-1910
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New User here, and I think Linux Stinks!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 20:21:49 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:25:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Let's face it --- Windows on the desktop is still in much behind Linux.
>>Bought a scanner, tried to automate it under Windows. Oh my! Is it really
>>that unusual to want to scan a few dozen documents by pressing a single
>>button for each? Or how about scanning the same document a few times
>>(to average and thus reduce CCD noise)?
>>
>>Bernie "It's all a matter of perspective" Meyer
>Different experience here:
>1.Plug in scanner
>2.Windows recogonizes it and asks for CD.
>3.Pop in CD.
>4. Installs perfectly.
>5.Also installs some great software like Adobe Photoshop.
>6. Wizard guides me through making first scan, although you can stop
>at that point if you wish.
Say, Steve, where in those 6 steps do you address my point?
Yes, I went through the same 6 steps (except that I realized in step 5
that the software installed wasn't nearly as great as the names suggested,
because there were numerous "PE"s and "Special Edition" sprinkled through).
I then wanted to scan one image 1024 times. Oops, no go.
OK, so maybe the next job can be done --- scan 208 CD covers, in an
efficient and fast manner, i.e.
1) Put cover on scanner
2) Press a key
3) Wait for scan to finish
4) Remove cover
5) Repeat from (1) with next cover
Nope, sorry, can't be done. Too bad.
Bernie "It too is all a matter of perspective" Meyer
P.S.: of course, under linux, between (1) and (2) I inserted the matching
CD into the (open) CD-ROM; During (3) the CD's ID would be read, the
CD ejected, and the scan would be saved under a name incorporating
the ID.
--
For famous men have the whole earth as their memorial
Pericles
Athenian statesman, 495-429 BC
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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: windoze 9x, what a piece of shit!
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:21:51 +0200
Everybody knows Win95-Me is APOS! Try using NT if you must use Windows.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a windoze box setup just for printing. Hit print, in star office
> (document composed on my linux box) and discovered that it was going to
> print before I had a chance to tell it to print @ 1200dpi w/ photo paper.
>
> Removed the paper from the printer and selected 'delete' on the printer
> control folder.
>
> The the computer ground down to a halt. Selecting the lexmark control
> program from the start menu took a full two minutes.
>
> I ended up having to shut the computer off and reboot.
>
> Just because I canceled a print job.
>
> I have a keyboard/mouse/video switch just because the box is too fucking
> unreliable to have it installed w/out keyboard and video.
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From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: windoze 9x, what a piece of shit!
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:26:45 +0200
I have been using Win2k for 3 months (since its release), and have had no
problems (actually more stable than RHL6.2). I don't know why some people
insist on comparing Linux to mickey mouse OS' such as win95/98/Me, or even
Win31 or DOS. Get rid of those!
"James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:393968e2$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Everybody knows Win95-Me is APOS! Try using NT if you must use Windows.
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I have a windoze box setup just for printing. Hit print, in star office
> > (document composed on my linux box) and discovered that it was going to
> > print before I had a chance to tell it to print @ 1200dpi w/ photo
paper.
> >
> > Removed the paper from the printer and selected 'delete' on the printer
> > control folder.
> >
> > The the computer ground down to a halt. Selecting the lexmark control
> > program from the start menu took a full two minutes.
> >
> > I ended up having to shut the computer off and reboot.
> >
> > Just because I canceled a print job.
> >
> > I have a keyboard/mouse/video switch just because the box is too fucking
> > unreliable to have it installed w/out keyboard and video.
>
>
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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: W2K BSOD's documented *not* to be hardware (Was: lack of goals.
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 06:46:27 +1000
"Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Christopher Smith wrote:
>
> > Colin Day asked
>
> > >
> > > Also, can one resize DOS boxes, or scroll along them, or have color
> > > text?
> >
> > You can in NT. Couldn't say in Win9x.
> >
> > > > They sad themselves that X Windows is supposed to make UNIX look
> > > > like Microsoft Windows.
> > >
> > > The X Windows System predates Microsoft Windows. Also, when did MS
> > > Windows support multiple desktops?
> >
> > Ever since you installed the software to allow it, same as X.
>
> Does this software come with Windows, or is it something you have
> to buy separately?
There's free software that will do it, same as X.
> > > And can you activate icons on your
> > > desktop by a single left click on a two-button mouse as you can on
KDE?
> >
> > Yes.
>
> Doesn't seem to work with the Windows 98 in my office.
Turn on single-click in the Tools->Options menu.
Why you'd want to is beyond me though, one of the things I disliked about
KDE the last time I used it was you couldn't turn the damn feature *off* (at
least not easily).
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From: "Adam Ruth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 14:39:46 -0600
> Linux is not Unix. it is not A Unix, it is not Unix at all...
Define Unix. I'm just curious, because this seems to come up a lot. I have
my own opinion, I would like to hear others.
My opinion:
Unix is a trademarked name that requires a license to use. Therefore Linux
is not Unix. However, I use the term Unix when possible, becuase as far as
my use of Linux goes, I could be running any number of flavors of Unix and
not notice much of a difference. The change required to go from Red Hat to
Caldera is not that different from change required to go from Red Hat to
Solaris (at least as far as I use the system). By that token, while I agree
that Linux is technically not Unix, for me it practically is.
Any other ideas?
--
Adam Ruth
InterCation, Inc.
www.intercation.com
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 17:43:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 17:35:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Yea we know.
> >>
> >>There always seems to be someone "helping" Linux, and goodness knows
> >>just one look and it's obvious it needs all the help it can get.
> >>
> >>Problem is, much of this so called help never materializes into
> >>anything.
> >>
> >>Or it arrives on the scene just in time to have Windows announce newer
> >>and better technology.
> >
> > Like what? What does Windows have that can match B2, nevermind
> > surpass it. Plus, Linux being a Unix: it's not that hard to
> > migrate easily from it to something that has better security
> > characteristics than what even the most delluded MS shill can claim.
> > (a nice feature of 'fragmented' Unix in general actually)
>
> Linux is not Unix. it is not A Unix, it is not Unix at all...
>
> When it happens, if it happens, be sure and let us know. Until then,
> Linux is not C2 certified.
>
>
> > Plus, a C2 cert is more a matter of someone being willing to go to
> > the expense of getting a particular configuration certified rather
> > than any inherent quality in the OS.
>
>
> Sour grapes.
>
> >>
> >>IBM and Oracle were throwing all kinds of support behind TurboLinux
> >>and look how far it got them...
> >>
>
>
> Like I said above ..........
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 16:44:20 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 16:07:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>They are doing the well known
> >>>>
> >>>>"Linux, Twist and Shout"
> >>>
> >>> No, we are just more aware of what being "C2" certified means.
> >>>
> >>> Meanwhile, SGI is sharing some of their "B2" level code with Linux.
> >>>
> >>>[deletia]
> >>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New User here, and I think Linux Stinks!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 16:58:26 -0400
What a fucking idiot.....
Even the special edition of Adobe (I'm assuming that's what was installed) blows
away anything Gimpy can do...
Scanning the same cover 100 times?
Now that's useful. Whazamatta Bernie, couldn't read it the first time?
The problem with lincrap is you never even get to the 100 part. Just trying to
make the scanner work is a daunting task.
Linux=joke of the year....
And CD covers are so hig res you need to rescan 100 times?
BTW MucsicMatch Jukebox does all those things you want. Under Windows you can
also PLAY the CD instead of looking at it's cover, and get full fidelity with
top quality digital audio boards, unlike Lincrap...
On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 20:21:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:25:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>>Let's face it --- Windows on the desktop is still in much behind Linux.
>>>Bought a scanner, tried to automate it under Windows. Oh my! Is it really
>>>that unusual to want to scan a few dozen documents by pressing a single
>>>button for each? Or how about scanning the same document a few times
>>>(to average and thus reduce CCD noise)?
>>>
>>>Bernie "It's all a matter of perspective" Meyer
>
>>Different experience here:
>
>>1.Plug in scanner
>>2.Windows recogonizes it and asks for CD.
>>3.Pop in CD.
>>4. Installs perfectly.
>>5.Also installs some great software like Adobe Photoshop.
>>6. Wizard guides me through making first scan, although you can stop
>>at that point if you wish.
>
>Say, Steve, where in those 6 steps do you address my point?
>Yes, I went through the same 6 steps (except that I realized in step 5
>that the software installed wasn't nearly as great as the names suggested,
>because there were numerous "PE"s and "Special Edition" sprinkled through).
>
>I then wanted to scan one image 1024 times. Oops, no go.
>OK, so maybe the next job can be done --- scan 208 CD covers, in an
>efficient and fast manner, i.e.
>
>1) Put cover on scanner
>2) Press a key
>3) Wait for scan to finish
>4) Remove cover
>5) Repeat from (1) with next cover
>
>Nope, sorry, can't be done. Too bad.
>
>Bernie "It too is all a matter of perspective" Meyer
>
>P.S.: of course, under linux, between (1) and (2) I inserted the matching
> CD into the (open) CD-ROM; During (3) the CD's ID would be read, the
> CD ejected, and the scan would be saved under a name incorporating
> the ID.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New User here, and I think Linux Stinks!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 17:00:36 -0400
Me thinks you better look at the website again and see how many features, and
ease of use of those features (SoundBlaster Live!) you are giving up running
Lincrap.
How about Synth A+B
Environmental Audio.
The sampling option (quite nice)
Front and rear channels that actually work.
LiveWare software.
SoundFonts...
Alas I could go on for hours but I have made my point.
Linux Sucks....
As usual.
On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 19:37:29 GMT, Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > > >
>> > > >I have sound blaster live card, popular card I think? no?
>> > > >
>> > > >I no can find any features like environmental audio in driver. I can't use my
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Try looking at this page. Creative Labs is working on providing full drivers for
>Linux.
>> >
>> > http://www.soundblaster.com/support/faq
>> >
>>
>> Oh, also from the same page, a note about Win2000:
>>
>> Does Sound Blaster Live! work with Windows 2000 (NT5) ?
>> Creative is working on drivers that will work under Windows 2000,
>but it's still a
>> moving target. It's possible that if the build
>> and the drivers both look stable for a while that we may release
>beta drivers.
>>
>> You'd think Microsoft would be a little nicer to a hardware manufacturer who helps
>sell a lot of
>> Windows
>> systems.
>>
>> Anyway, I have the SB Live card, and the provisional driver that ships with Win2000
>is
>> problematic. MIDI breaks up when
>> closing an NT Explorer window. The sound pops whenever a CD is placed into the
>drive. No support
>> for multiple speakers.
>> Generally, except for wave/mp3 playback, Win2000 right now behaves even worse than
>Linux. At least
>> Linux's EMU10K1 driver
>> works!
>>
>> Chris again.
>
>I have Sound Blaster live. It's been working with Mandrake 7.0 and Suse
>6.3 and on up for quite some
>time now folks.
>
>The component detectors just automatically set this up for you.....
>
>Don't even need to go thru that EMU10K1 thing if you can't read....
>
>It just makes my heart so sad to see somebody start off a thread about
>installing a fucking soundblaster
>live card when there is NO problem in doing that....
>
>You know, if the people using Windows could read and type we'd be
>reading about their problems
>with DVD and USB more.... But like good russians they seeminly know
>when not to complain.
>Yet their problems are actually REAL.
>
>
>Charlie
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The sad Linux story
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 17:03:24 -0400
Pete, you have done the research, you have reached the same conclusion that has
been reached by many, many, many other Linux wannabees and that is that Linux
sucks compared to Windows.
You will never convince these idiots otherwise. Save the cycles and play a game
or 2.
I suggest "Hot Pursuit" by Electronic Arts.
Nice Environmental Audio, full spectrum sound and a great game. Also, for
obvious reasons NOT available under Lincrap.
Sponge
On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 19:58:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete
Goodwin) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>>I'm not comparing it to Windows; I'm pointing out the various hotpotch
>>>bits and pieces of Linux.
>>
>> Attempting to compare the various shells for Unix and the
>> singular built in piece of trash that DOS has is absurd.
>
>You can read can't you.
>
>Watch my lips:
>
>I'm looking at the various hotbotch bits and pieces of Linux.
>
>Now where in the above sentance do you see Windows or DOS?
>
>Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HTML Help files (an updated set of man pages)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 17:04:14 -0400
So program it yourself.
Obviously you are the only person in the entire world to want such a thing.
NOT!!!
On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 20:20:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete
Goodwin) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>Apparently you're uninformed, because you don't have to.
>>
>>Start the GNOME help browser.
>>Click on "Man Pages" in the index page.
>>Click on "User Commands".
>>Scroll down a bit. Every command with a man page is listed here.
>>Click on "biff".
>>
>>A nicely formatted HTML version of the biff(1) man page appears.
>
>Most of the HTML formatted pages I've seen of man pages are just that, just
>the man pages. What about making it more useful by adding hyperlinks so
>that you can jump to related topics, and what about adding useful 'sample'
>sections in the help.
>
>Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Heston)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Why We Should Be Nice To Windows Users -was- Neologism of the day
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 20:48:27 GMT
According to EdWIN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mathew) wrote:
>>Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> [ ... ] "We have to have Windows
>>> because that's what everyone else uses."
>>This is known as the "Eat shit! Fifty billion flies can't be wrong!"
>>argument.
>Nope. Windows isn't "shit," so it's not that kind of argument.
Right; Windows doesn't get up to that level of QA.
>>I say let the company move their critical infrastructure to NT, watch it
>>fall over several times a week, then say "I told you so".
Doesn't work; you get told to fix it, then you get blamed for it, then you
get canned for not fixing it.
>My employer moved to NT years ago, and it doesn't "fall over
>several times a week."
Oh, someone else who reboots all their servers weekly. Still doesn't
eliminate BSODs, just reduces them.
>You do know that Motorola, Adobe, and Pixar have all
>standardized on NT, right?
...which tripled their hardware requirements per server, not to mention
requiring four times as many. Then you end up with a weaker overalll
architecture.
Gary
--
Gary Heston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"We in the government knew when we got an email titled "ILOVEYOU" that
something was wrong." Senator Fred Thompson quoted by ZDNet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Canada invites Microsoft north
Date: 3 Jun 2000 20:50:21 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Wiltshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i) Balance of trade figures. MS is a major exporter.
Numbers, please? I've seen that claim repeated here and there,
but without much support.
>ii) Microsoft shutting down would bankrupt almost all of the software
>development houses in the world.
And how would that happen???
>iii) Most companies depend on MS software to run. Without a cheap
>upgrade path they have to fork out thousands of dollars per machine in
>training and testing for new operating systems. That will bankrupt a
>LOT of companies.
And how would that happen???
M$ shutting down would not cause Windows (Windoze?) to disappear
-- it would still be around, and the government might look the other way
if copies got widely bootlegged.
However, with Windows having no future, there will likely be a
*big* future for Linux, which would run old DOS and Windows stuff with
dosemu and WINE. Upgrade to Linux would be gradual, thus making Mr.
Wiltshire's nightmares just that -- nightmares.
--
Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] And a fast train
My home page: http://www.petrich.com/home.html
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From: Mig Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsoft migrates Hotmail to W2K
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 22:53:32 +0200
abraxas wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > "abraxas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8h9516$1nim$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > "Adam Ruth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> > news:8h8i2s$2epp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> If I'm not mistaken (and I'm not), the NT network services are not C2
> >> >> certified. NT is only C2 certified on a standalone system. You got a
> >> >> network? You ain't C2 certified. I was embarrased by this fact a
> > couple of
> >> >> years ago in a debate with an NetWarian who shot me down in my high and
> >> >> mighty attitude.
> >>
> >> > In 1998, (perhaps 99) NT 4.0 SP6 with C2 hotfix was C2 certified
> >> > on the network and everywhere in between.
> >>
> >> It was NOT certified on an IP network, idiot. You're lying again.
>
> > yes, it is you fucking asshole. Did you not actually read anything about it?
> > http://www.radium.ncsc.mil./tpep/epl/entries/TTAP-CSC-EPL-99-001.html
> > choke on this.
>
> An os is not C2able if it accepts socketed printer connects. Choke on that,
> idiot.
Know and understand your opponent.. a google search on Drestin
Black reveals lots of interesting stuff.. some interesting and some pretty
scary stuff
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Once again: Open-Source != Security; PGP Provides Example
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 16:51:05 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 17:59:56 GMT, Christopher Browne wrote:
> >Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Rob S. Wolfram would say:
>
> >If Rex calculated the _memory space_ required by his sieve, to store all
> >the primes up to 2^1024, he might ascertain just how big the problem is.
> >That is left as an exercise to the reader...
>
> The density of primes in the integers does taper off somewhat,
> more formally,
> if you count the number of primes less than n and divide that number
> by n, the result goes to zero as n gets large. Can't remember how
> quickly it dies off though. It's not a very easy computation.
Let p(n) be the number of primes less than or equal to n, and let lg(n)
be the logarithm base two of n. The limit as n goes to infinity of the
product of p(n) multiplied by lg(n) and then divided by n is 1.
Colin Day
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From: Mig Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HTML Help files (an updated set of man pages)
Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 23:03:09 +0200
Pete Goodwin wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >Apparently you're uninformed, because you don't have to.
> >
> >Start the GNOME help browser.
> >Click on "Man Pages" in the index page.
> >Click on "User Commands".
> >Scroll down a bit. Every command with a man page is listed here.
> >Click on "biff".
> >
> >A nicely formatted HTML version of the biff(1) man page appears.
>
> Most of the HTML formatted pages I've seen of man pages are just that, just
> the man pages. What about making it more useful by adding hyperlinks so
> that you can jump to related topics, and what about adding useful 'sample'
> sections in the help.
>
> Pete
Bahhh.. Just RTFM thats presented to you.. besides not only GNOME but also
KDE help does exactly what you wanted. A GUI based and hyperlinked
interface to the entire help system.
Man pages normally have "usefull sample sections" and at least the KDE help
brower allows yoy to click on hyperlinked related topics
Cheers
Oh.. just started the GNOME help browser. Guess what... i selected the man
page for "aliases" and discovered LOTS of hyperlinks to related subjects and
even a TOC.. exactly like KDE's helpsystem. Complainers belong to Windows..
if you cant help yourself then piss off (Quote from the bible)
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