Linux-Advocacy Digest #866, Volume #33           Tue, 24 Apr 01 05:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Women's rights and responsibilities. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Flash: Saviour or Scourge of the Universe? ("Joseph T. Adams")
  Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM (GreyCloud)
  Re: Red Hat has become scary? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: bank switches from using NT 4 ("Tom Wilson")
  Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Intel versus Sparc ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Oliver Moeller)
  Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males ("Edward Rosten")
  Re: Red Hat has become scary? (GreyCloud)
  Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Tom Wilson")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men
Subject: Re: Women's rights and responsibilities.
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:25:18 -0400

Stephen Morgan wrote:
> 
> In soc.men, Brent R wrote:
> > Stephen Morgan wrote:
> > >
> > > In soc.men, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 01:01:19 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:17:32 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > > > > >> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > Never been in Saudi Arabia, have you, so please keep your ignorant
> > > > > >> > stereotypes to yourself.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I'm not invoking "ignorant stereotypes", I am quoting what I believe is
> > > > > >> a fairly good source.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, considering that I ***LIVED*** In Saudi Arabia for a year, I say
> > > > > > that your source is full of shit.
> > > > >
> > > > > You've found very little in the way of flaws in my source.
> > > >
> > > > I don't need to "find" the flaws...they are self-evident from my own
> > > > PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF LIVING IN SAUDI ARABIA FOR A YEAR
> > > >
> > > > >                                                            All you've done
> > > > > is dispute the assertions I've made about clothing. Note that the document
> > > > > I cited acknowledges that westerners are not as restricted in terms of
> > > > > clothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > But many of the points still stand. Are women allowed to drive, or leave
> > > > > the house without a male relative ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What about it?
> > > >
> > > > They get many privileges, and many restrictions
> > > >
> > > > In contrast, in the United States, we have stripped all of men's
> > > > privileges, and all of womens' restrictions, giving us a society
> > > > where men have all the responsibilities and restrictions, and women
> > > > have all of the privileges.
> > > >
> > > > In other words...FEUDALISM.
> > >
> > > You obviously have very little idea of how the feudal system worked.
> > > --
> > > Working Class
> > >    The proletariat so beloved of Marx and Engels are still alive and well and
> > >    living in vast areas of terraced housing in the major industrial cities. Alf
> > >    Garnett was their hero and he was adopted by US TV and renamed Archie Bunker.
> > >    They dislike foreigners, toffs and anything new. They watch the telly, go
> > >    down the pub, watch the match on Saturday and go to spain to get drunk. They
> > >    fight our wars and fight at football matches. Not a pretty sight.
> >
> > Oh yeah I remember Alf! From Melmac right? Remember that time he tried
> > to kill that cockroach but the spray just kept making it bigger and
> > bigger! Haha... Gawd the hilarity that insued!
> 
> I must admit, I really have no idea who Alf Garnett is.
> 

He was referring to an American TV show called A.L.F.

The title character was an aardvark-like hand-puppet (usually
sitting on the couch in the basement, visable ONLY to the
father of the house) from another planet (ALF="Alien Life Form").
ALF wasn't just a space alien, he was an obnoxious, beer-drinking
space alien.

And incredibly funny.


> I'll change my sig.
> 
> --
> Working Class
>    The proletariat so beloved of Marx and Engels are still alive and well and
>    living in vast areas of terraced housing in the major industrial cities. Alf
>    Garnett was their hero and he was adopted by US TV and renamed Archie Bunker.
>    They dislike foreigners, toffs and anything new. They watch the telly, go
>    down the pub, watch the match on Saturday and go to spain to get drunk. They
>    fight our wars and fight at football matches. Not a pretty sight.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Flash: Saviour or Scourge of the Universe?
Date: 24 Apr 2001 08:22:32 GMT

Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: : The main disadvantage seems to be that no one seems to really need it.
: : Anyway it's mostly employed in places where it only adds completely
: : useless glitz that is meant to look stylish but usually doesn't.

: Well, some people do clever things with it:

: http://www.chello.nl/~a.mert/fight.swf

: but, in most cases, it doesn't convey any extra information and
: is just a waste of time and bandwidth.


It wasn't, last time I checked, a W3C standard.

Worst, it isn't (IIRC) a freely published spec, and therefore can't be
implemented in free software.

The Internet is based on mutually agreed standards that can be
implemented in free software on a wide variety of different kinds of
systems.  Flash is to the best of my knowledge not such a standard. 
It is a closed, proprietary technology, and using such technologies in
a medium designed and based around open standards is a VERY bad idea.

I for one do not patronize any site that requires proprietary
technology.  And I strongly encourage others not to do so either.


Joe


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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
gnu.emacs.help,alt.religions.vim,alt.religion.emacs,fj.editor.vi,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Tired of XEMACS, moving to VIM
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:26:07 -0700

James Silverton wrote:
> 
> > > [1] Yer also a weenie if you don't have at least one clean room in your home
> > > to do such things. :)
> >
> > magnetic disks are for weenies.
> >
> > real men use punch cards.
> 
> Is it still possible to buy punch cards and does anyone use them for any
> serious purpose? Not meant to be sarcastic, just wondering.
> 
> Jim.
> --
> James V.  Silverton
> Potomac, Maryland

Yes, florida voters.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:28:16 -0400

Tom Wilson wrote:
> 
> "Brent R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
> <massive snippage>
> > Who else but an American car company would make all these asinine SUV's?
> 
> And market them to yuppies who hardly have the skill to navigate the BMW's
> they're trading in.
> 



more totalled vehicles ==> more sales of replacement vehicles.


> >
> > --
> > - Brent
> >
> > http://rotten168.home.att.net
> >
> >


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: bank switches from using NT 4
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:29:22 GMT


"Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3ae45db3$0$2765$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> #3) if it reduces piracy so that prices for software fall - I'm all for
it -
> I want cheap software too.

That's a foolish pipe-dream. It will be hacked and disabled almost
immediately. You forget the lengths people will go through to get something
for nothing. Disk-based copy protection failed. Dongles failed. XP's
protection scheme, too, will fail.

The only thing MS is accomplishing is pissing off a healthy percentage of
its' user base and, quite probably, introducing more bugs into the OS.

A train wreck in the making.





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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - It is an excellent product
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:30:10 -0400

GreyCloud wrote:
> 
> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> >
> > Hullo wrote:
> > >
> > > Wonderful product from Microsoft. Go get it and get used to the future
> > > dudes.
> > >
> > > Work on politeness as your manners reflect badly on your linux cause..maybe
> > > take some exercise and eat more fruit to relieve your evident stress and
> > > aggression. Learn to relax.
> > > Assume nothing.
> > > LT
> >
> > What is you job? what are your qualifications? how old are you?
> >
> > my guess to the above questions:
> >
> > Hullo's Job: Works at either KFC or Whimpies (I think it is a UK fast
> > foods chain)
> > Hullo's Qualifications: Degree in deep-fry-a-chicken-and-chips-ology
> > How old is Hullo: He is a pimply faced 15 year old with a chip on his
> > shoulder.
> >
> > ps. Some should give this little toe-rag a good kick up the ass and haul
> > him back to primary school where he belongs.
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> > --
> > Disclaimer:
> >
> > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> >
> > If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> >
> > Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> >
> > The best of German engineering, now in software form
> 
> It sounds like Billy Gates!  Reminds of that salesman in a Seattle TV
> ad...
> (Tex wearing a cowboy hat... eyes beady...)  I'll paint any car for
> $99.95!!!

Clyde is standing at the ready with his latex paint, and a paint-roller....

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel versus Sparc
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:31:38 -0400

Tom Wilson wrote:
> 
> "Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9q%E6.1338$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [snips]
> >
> > "Chris Ahlstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > Figured it couldn't be compiler bugs!  After some
> > > more dicking around with cleaning up some of
> > > the myriad of warnings, I noticed that the
> > > bad function was pushing an array of structures
> > > onto the stack.  Looking at the size of the array,
> > > found it was 64 Mb!
> > >
> > > At that point, we realized that the Intel platform
> > > was the cause of the trouble
> >
> > Really?  The Intel platform, eh?  Not, say, the programmer who created
> this
> > monstrosity in the first place without a shred of consideration for the
> > possible impact of doing it, no, not his fault, must be the platform.
> 
> That was my thinking, too. Why on God's green earth would the programmer not
> anticipate such a thing and simply pass a pointer to the array?


Just the overhead of passing a 64MB structure is unbelievable.

what a fucking idiot.

Must of been a recent departee from Mafia$oft.



-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642

L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
   can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

K: Truth in advertising:
        Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
        Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
        Special Interest Sierra Club,
        Anarchist Members of the ACLU
        Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
        The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
        Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,


J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.


F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

------------------------------

From: Oliver Moeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: 24 Apr 2001 10:33:04 +0200

Jan Vorbrueggen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > The Germans did, in fact have real, working computers before anyone else.
> 
> Well, Zuse certainly did, and although he had some public - i.e., war -
> funding initially, I'm pretty sure that was reduced/cut before the end
> of the war. 

This is not how I remember the story, as told by Prof. Raśl Rojas.  
Apparently Zuse started off with private funding, only the Z4 was built under
contract for the German Airspace Research Office.

http://www.zib.de/zuse/English_Version/index.html  [see "comments"]

> He built his biggest machine in the living room of his parents- in-law.

His first (Z1), but I doubt whether it was his biggest.
The Z1 was destroyed in the bombardment of Berlin '44.
http://www.zib.de/zuse/English_Version/Inhalt/Galerie/Z1/0701.jpg

- oli                                          http://www.brics.dk/~omoeller
*com-pu-ter*: device to enhance our capability to err.   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Feminism ==> subjugation of males
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:36:40 +0100

> A woman who thinks she should get paid the same as a man for the same
> work is a feminist. Get it now?

What about a man who thinks women and men should be paid the same for the
same work?

-Ed



-- 
You can't go wrong with psycho-rats.

u 9 8 e j r (at) e c s . o x . a c . u k

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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat has become scary?
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:42:23 -0700

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> GreyCloud wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > GreyCloud wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Matthew Gardiner wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "B. R. Ivy" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Does anyone out there think that Red Hat is moving towards a 
>proprietory OS?
> > > > > > > > > > I really appreciated the way that RH 7.0 installed but it almost 
>seemed too
> > > > > > > > > > slick.  And now they want to bundle in the way too pretty Nautilus 
>GUI with
> > > > > > > > > > 7.1.   I'd hate to wake up five years from now with another 
>Microsoft on the
> > > > > > > > > > horizon. Ideas? Opinions?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Randall Ivy
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The difference is that there are alternatives, such as SuSE Linux, 
>and
> > > > > > > > > Mandrake.  I find it rather humourous that Sepo's don't know any
> > > > > > > > > products made outside the US.  Mention the words SuSE, SAP or Baan 
>and
> > > > > > > > > you get blank faces, mention software such as Jade and there is even
> > > > > > > > > more blank faces. What the heck is wrong with people? Its like during
> > > > > > > > > the 70s, the quality of US cars were going further down hill, whilst 
>the
> > > > > > > > > Japanese made cars were superior and cheaper, yet, no sepo's bought
> > > > > > > > > them. Is that xenaphobia at the extreme?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No...just illogical arrogance based on an irrational form of 
>nationalism.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It's one thing to be proud of your country...it's yet another to assume
> > > > > > > > that all foreigners are inferior.
> > > > > > > > That's what got Germany, and Japan, and eventually the Soviet Union in 
>trouble.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hell yes. But atleast you don't see Germany or Japan trying to be the
> > > > > > > world policeman. They have learnt their leason.  However, US still
> > > > > > > haven't learnt it, even with all the nut cases out there wanting to blow
> > > > > > > up US government buildings.  You only need to look at the US's
> > > > > > > involvement in Somalia to show how arrogance + ignorance = disaster.  It
> > > > > > > is one thing helping a country, it is another thing to tell a country
> > > > > > > what to do.  However, what I can say, is, the Soviet Union was the first
> > > > > > > to develop biological weapons, with the first one being developed, one
> > > > > > > carrying a antibiotic resistant strain of the smallpox virus.  The US
> > > > > > > said it was impossible, the Soviet Union proved them wrong.  The US had
> > > > > > > one space station, the Soviety union threw up 5 into orbit.  Little
> > > > > > > facts most people in the US fail to comprehend, that there is NO ONE
> > > > > > > country that has contributed to human technological advance, but many,
> > > > > > > and until this happens, the rampant arrogance will continue to grow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Matthew Gardiner
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you don't like it, you can go [# rm -rf /home/luser] yourself
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Running SuSE Linux 7.1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The best of German engineering, now in software form
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually a lot of americans ask this same question... why us?
> > > > > > (policemen)  The corruption is so deep and wide spread that its no
> > > > > > wonder when an american goes overseas for a vacation that we get spit
> > > > > > on.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're getting spit on, then you're doing something wrong.
> > > >
> > > > I was wearing an Army uniform at the time enroute from Panama thru
> > > > Gautamala to L.A.
> > > > I guess I did stick out like a sore thumb.
> > >
> > > You're kidding.  Every SEADA briefing I've had tells us to ALWAYS
> > > travel in civilian clothes, unless travelling on government transport.
> > > [And even then, it depends...]
> > >
> >
> > Didn't exist in 1968.  I was briefed, then, by the State Dept. and I was
> 
> Ah...you're older than I thought....in fact, you must be around my dad's age.
> 
> > told it was safe.  It was safe, spit don't hurt.  Just didn't know that
> > it was going to happen then. When I got back, I reported it to S-2.  I
> > also went by commercial air as I was paying for it out of my own pocket,
> > vacation.  All I had on me was the ok to go on vacation.
> >
> > After that the Gov. chartered commercial air flights and scheduled
> > vacations when it was available.  But when I changed duty stations I had
> > to go by MAC.
> >
> > I'd suppose that things were starting to change.
> >
> 
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> 
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
>    can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> K: Truth in advertising:
>         Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>         Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>         Special Interest Sierra Club,
>         Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>         Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>         The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>         Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> 
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> 
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> 
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>     you are lazy, stupid people"
> 
> G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> 
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> 
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>    her behavior improves.
> 
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>    ...despite (C) above.
> 
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> 
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>    direction that she doesn't like.
> 
> A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

I'm really retired.  And suffering from high blood pressure.  That
problem really sneaks up on you and then its almost too late.  I went to
the doctors office with my ears ringing loud and mind in a fog... took
my pressure... 240/120.  Damn near blew a gasket!
Taken care of now.  Anyway, still catching up on Unix and what it can
do.  Eventually, I'll receive a vax-4000 in the mail.. as used one
running vms 6.2.  Has vax fortran and C on it already.  It has two
ethernet ports on it and will connect it to this IBM and use putty.exe I
got from Rice U. (vt330 emulator).  I need to get somewhere a hardware
fire-wall as wife wants to get on broadband.  I don't trust software yet
to keep out intruders.

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From: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:44:11 GMT


"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Tom Wilson wrote:
> >
> > "JS PL" <hi everybody!> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > > > SDSU - dropped out after a year, and have never looked back.
> > > >
> > > > LOL. me, a 4 year degree vs. JS PL, a college drop out!
> > > >
> > > > Matthew Gardiner
> > >
> > > And your still a dumb fuck,  go figure.
> >
> > Obviously, you dropped out before they covered basic sentence structure
and
> > grammar.
> Let me correct his vile english:
>
> "And you're still a dumb fuck! go figure"
>
> Thats much better.

<Anal Retention>
Capitol "G" in go...
</Anal-Retention>

:)





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