Linux-Advocacy Digest #646, Volume #27 Thu, 13 Jul 00 12:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: LINUX NFS SUX !!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Are Linux people illiterate? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Are Linux people illiterate? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Are Linux people illiterate? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linsux as a desktop platform ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linsux as a desktop platform ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome!
Re: Why use Linux? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: LINUX NFS SUX !!! (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Re: Are Linux people illiterate? (R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ))
Re: Are Linux people illiterate? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Are Linux people illiterate? (Brian Langenberger)
Re: Why use Linux? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: What I've always said: Netcraft numbers of full of it ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Are Linux people illiterate? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LINUX NFS SUX !!!
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 14:59:11 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi) wrote:
> Sorry for the subject, I'm just looking for help and expediantly
> resorting to a cheap attention grabbing line (-;
>
> I'm having a hard time with an NFS server. It's running:
> Kernel 2.2.5
> knfsd 1.2 ( IIRC )
> Something's definitely wrong with this NFS version -- it crashes
frequently,
> and since it's not a userland program, when NFS goes out the server
needs
> a reboot. Needless to say, this is a PITA.
>
> So my question is -- what is the recommended configuration for a Linux
box
> running NFS ? SHould I upgrade the kernel ?
> What is currently the most *reliable* version of NFS ? The
> server is not busy enough that I care that much about performance. I
just
> want it to work, dammit!
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Donovan
>
Hmmmm, I did a search on deja and did not find your post to a technical
news group (looking for more info) and found nothing. You might try
*posting* to the linux networking news group. Off hand, I seem to recall
something about kernel 2.2.5 and NFS. I tried tracking it down but was
unable to find any info. I would suggest upgrading the kernel and knfs
as well. You are several revisions behind on *both*.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Are Linux people illiterate?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:02:29 GMT
Nice try, typical Linux user trying to skirt the issue.. My post is not
Linux Documentation. If you are posting technical documentation on the
web site, it should be at least readable. How lame.
In article <8kif2e$qqd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : A WHOLE bunch of typos at the Linux documentation project!
>
> That sentance has no verb.
>
> <snip>
>
> : --- I mean really,, what a bunch of retards! You all spent so much
time
> ^
> Your punctuation needs work. Also, the phrase "you all" is redundant,
> unless you're from the southern U.S.
>
> : geeking that you never acquired spelling and grammar skills?
Well..
> : rest my case, the real world will ever take Linux seriously.
>
> Maybe you mean "*I* rest my case", unless you're instructing us to
> rest your case for you.
>
> I'm fairly certain the Linux community doesn't take you seriously.
> The rest of the world doesn't give a rat's ass about the occasional
> typo since they're so prevalent on the internet anyway.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Are Linux people illiterate?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:04:41 GMT
That is no excuse. They could at least have someone proof read it.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Ciaran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You may also consider that some of the documentation is written
> by people for whom english is not their first language. Linux is
> an international effort after all. You may want to cut them some
> slack.
>
> You may also want to spend some time reading the Win32 platform
> SDK documentation... hardy a paragon of literary excellence IMHO.
>
> Cheers,
> Ciaran
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Are Linux people illiterate?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:04:00 GMT
Nice try, typical Linux user trying to skirt the issue.. My post is not
Linux Documentation. If you are posting technical documentation on the
web site, it should be at least readable. How lame.
In article <8kiuca$a4j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <8kic9g$sqj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> <random snips>
> > How is this for an incomplete sentence including typos!
>
> Use a question mark after all questions, even if they are in
> declarative form.
>
> > And the printed book "Running Linux" (3rd Edition mind you) has
> typos..
>
> An ellipsis consists of three spaced periods, with one space before
and
> after each period. An ellipsis at the end of a sentence includes an
> extra period. Some style guides omit the spaces.
>
> > --- I mean really,, what a bunch of retards! You all spent so much
> time
>
> You should never follow a comma with another comma.
>
> > geeking that you never acquired spelling and grammar skills?
Well..
>
> If you again meant to use an ellipsis as a separator, an ellipsis
> consists of three spaced periods.
>
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>
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linsux as a desktop platform
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:08:27 -0400
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > Quoting Aaron Kulkis from comp.os.linux.advocacy; Wed, 12 Jul 2000
> > [...]
> > >I disagree. By eliminating pre-emtptive multitasking, you eliminate
> > >the ability to do a renderining (CPU-bound) in the background while
> > >running netscape (mostly user-input bound, occassionaly network bound).
> >
> > You don't *eliminate* it. It gets much slower, potentially much much
> > slower. But that's OK; ITS IN THE BACKGROUND. I don't *need* it right
> > now. What I *need* is for absolutely nothing on that system to slow
> > down the *foreground* netscape from rendering. And I don't care what
> > bounds it, because I'm not here for the theoretical value. I need to
> > get a job done, and I want the computer to wait for me, not vice versa,
> > regardless of the circumstances or what else the computer might be
> > programmed to believe is important.
>
> You ever actually try the above on a Mac? Netscape will become horribly
> unresponsive, because the 3D render will hog the CPU in spite of being
> in the background. This is the point you're not getting, it seems. Once
> an app grabs control of the CPU, it can keep it for as long as it wants.
> It don't matter at all if it's in the background or not.
>
> > How trivial would it be to configure the scheduler on Linux to give
> > whatever window is on top of my display a priority orders of magnitude
> > greater than everything else (unless I change it, of course)? If this
> > can be done, I'm going to want to do it.
> >
> > And I'm going to expect that all the software is going to continue to
> > function without screwing up because they assumed I'd give them a fair
> > shot at the CPU. From there perspective, it should look like they're
> > just one of four million other processes that want time, right? How
> > prevalent is it for typical programs to get "choked to death" by lack of
> > CPU time? And how does a Mac manage to run a TCP/IP stack if CMT is so
> > bad when it comes to background processes?
>
> It doesn't use CMT. The TCP/IP stack and several other faceless
> background tasks are preemptively tasked against each other and the rest
> of the system. Mac OS has PMT features, they just can't be used by
> anything that calls the toolbox because many toolbox calls aren't
> reentrant.
ACK!!
Why hasn't Apple rewritten them?
>
> > Maybe I'm not as done with this topic as I thought...
>
> --
> The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected.
> -- The Unix Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linsux as a desktop platform
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:10:57 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Quoting Aaron Kulkis from comp.os.linux.advocacy; Wed, 12 Jul 2000
> [...]
> >The problem isn't pre-emptive multi-tasking, it's the IDIOTIC
> >decision among the M$ coding staff that decreed that every time
> >a new window pops up, the GUI focus should immediately switch
> >to the pop-up.
>
> In case you don't know it by now, I'm not a software engineer or
> programmer. But I am pretty knowledgable about computers 'n stuff. I
> realize that you are technically correct. But I also can't help but
> notice that the behavior which is problematic seems to mirror the
> technical approach of the system. It appears that I am arguing for a
> CMT approach on a PMT technology. Thanks for keeping me straight, but
> the issue still remains.
>
> It doesn't matter how wonderful the scheduler is; its a program, not a
> person. The user should decide what gets priority on the desktop, and
> this should generally match the *users* priority on the *desktop*. Get
> it? If schedulers in PMT systems take efforts to do that, then fine.
> But all this talk of "waste" and horrible inefficiency just sounds like
> second-guessing the operator. It is something I don't tolerate from
> Microsoft, and I wouldn't tolerate it from any other desktop system,
> either.
The Unix command that will give you what you want is the "renice"
command.
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> Manager of Research & Educational Services
> Managed Services
> [A corporation which does not wish to be identified]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -[Opinions expressed are my own; everyone else, including
> my employer, has to pay for them, subject to
> applicable licensing agreement]-
>
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I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman's Politics (was: Linux is awesome!
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:13:35 GMT
On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:31:11 -0400, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] () from comp.os.linux.advocacy; Wed, 12
> [...]
>> You seek to alter the argument by exploiting the potential
>> ignorance of those involved.
>
>Ooh, I *like* that one.
>
>But now that you've got it copyrighted, I guess I need to ask permission
>to use it in my derivative works, don't I?
Actually, I disagree with the notion of a purely defacto
copyright in general and especially when the expression
in question is in an open public forum.
Consider it bsdl as an attributed remark and PD otherwise. '-)
--
Common Standards, Common Ownership.
The alternative only leads to destructive anti-capitalist
and anti-democratic monopolies.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why use Linux?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:15:20 -0400
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "1$worth" <"1$worth"@costreduction.plseremove.screaming.net> wrote:
> > See, Trolls like Pete avoid the questions. I just don't believe
> anything
> > he says.
> > It is clear that he either has had a very good (unusual) Win32
> > experience or he
> > is telling us tails. Former may be true, but as I said before, a
> > computer just
> > sitting there doing file serving just should NOT crash. Linux doesn't,
> > even WinNT
> > is a happy bunny for longer, but Win9x is simply not designed to be
> > reliable and those
> > who state that it is are by definition suspicious.
>
> Rubbish! The web server running on the machine indicates it was started
> on the 17th May.
I think you should call the people at The Smithsonian Institution.
A machine of this rarity deserves to be preserved forever in a museum.
>
> The comment that Windows 98 crashes after a month I found ludicrous,
> and sure enough, I have a system nearby that's been up and running over
> a month now.
>
> --
> ---
> Pete
>
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX NFS SUX !!!
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:19:57 -0500
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> Sorry for the subject, I'm just looking for help and expediantly
> resorting to a cheap attention grabbing line (-;
>
> I'm having a hard time with an NFS server. It's running:
> Kernel 2.2.5
> knfsd 1.2 ( IIRC )
> Something's definitely wrong with this NFS version -- it crashes frequently,
> and since it's not a userland program, when NFS goes out the server needs
> a reboot. Needless to say, this is a PITA.
>
> So my question is -- what is the recommended configuration for a Linux box
> running NFS ? SHould I upgrade the kernel ?
> What is currently the most *reliable* version of NFS ? The
> server is not busy enough that I care that much about performance. I just
> want it to work, dammit!
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Donovan
All NFS servers in my business network are running 2.2.14 kernels with
the userland NFS servers. I am not fully confident yet with the
stability of the kernel based NFS servers. Something there just doesn't
yet strike me right. We have a dual processor server with two 36GB hard
drives serving up 22 other machines a home directory and some of
/usr/local and haven't run into any performance issues yet. Anytime I
check, even during initial login times of the day (when everyone would
be pulling something off of the server) the processor usuage hovers
around 1%. It is serving two 100baseT full duplex connections into the
network and each machine has a 100baseT full duplex connection to the
network. I believe we run out of bandwidth long before we run out of
NFS server performance. Anyway, userland NFS server is still very
good. And the performance is very adequate unless you need truly
blistering performance (Fibre network connections?!?).
Hope this helps.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nathaniel Jay Lee
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From: R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are Linux people illiterate?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:24:12 GMT
In article <8kic9g$sqj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A WHOLE bunch of typos at the Linux documentation project!
Keep in mind that for many of those contributing to this archive,
English is their second or third language. Many linux contributors
are German, French, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Italian, Spanish, and
Texan :-).
(I'm Colorado born and bred and we just LOVE TEXANS :-).
> From http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO-5.html
>
> "The bilt in Linux firewall..."
>
> "...new firewall utility with more feachers"
>
> How is this for an incomplete sentence including typos!
>
> http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO-6.html
>
> "Because most distributions don't dome with a kernel usefull to your
> perpose."
>
> Or this;
>
> "You need to turning off any unneeded services."
>
> "This script will count ever packet"
>
> And the printed book "Running Linux" (3rd Edition mind you) has
typos..
>
> Check page 47, "If this is the cas, it should be explicity stated on
> the package"
>
> --- I mean really,, what a bunch of retards! You all spent so much
time
> geeking that you never acquired spelling and grammar skills? Well..
> rest my case, the real world will ever take Linux seriously.
>
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>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Are Linux people illiterate?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:25:14 GMT
In article <8kjmor$9df$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> >A WHOLE bunch of typos at the Linux documentation project!
>
> Oh my. The world will end.
>
> >From http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO-5.html
>
> From the same HOWTO, right from the very start:
>
> 1.1 Feedback
>
> Any feedback is very welcome. PLEASE REPORT ANY INACCURACIES IN
THIS
> PAPER!!! I am human, and prone to making mistakes. If you find a
fix
> for anything please send it to me. I will try to answer all e-mail,
> but I am busy, so don't get insulted if I don't.
>
> My email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> (oh, and you missed some of the more interesting mistakes in the
section
> you looked at --- problems with the distinction between singular and
plural,
> and the associated verb forms.
>
> However, here is an interesting fact --- I set up a firewall a few
days
> ago. I worked through most of that HOWTO (albeit a slightly older
version),
> because I like understanding what is going on. And you know what? I
never
> noticed a single typo, missing word or grammatical screwup.
> I am quite sure they were there. I am also quite sure that they didn't
stop
> the HOWTO from fulfilling its purpose, which was to tell me how to set
up
> a firewall.
>
> Oh, and one more pointer for you:
>
> http://okcforum.org/~markg/mark/Dyslixics.html
>
> To quote the first line:
>
> If you havn't guess yet, I'M Dyslexic!
>
> And guess what the Firewall-HOWTO and that page have in common! That's
> right --- the author.
Wow! I'm impressed! A Dyslexic person willing publish a document, such
as a HOWTO, that will be read by so many people. It shows some real
courage. Thanks for the INFO, bmeyer. That URL is well worth reading and
I hope redtyrel will take the time.
I also think it shows a real strength of the linux community. We are
willing to gratefully accept the contributions from anyone who is
willing to contribute, spelling errors included.
Thanks again, bmeyer.
And thanks Mark, your firewall HOWTO was a great help.
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From: Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are Linux people illiterate?
Date: 13 Jul 2000 15:36:09 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Nice try, typical Linux user trying to skirt the issue.. My post is not
: Linux Documentation. If you are posting technical documentation on the
: web site, it should be at least readable. How lame.
Typical troll hypocrisy. You expect large chunks of (free) online
documentation to be typo-less but can't even manage a short
usenet post without making equally stupid errors in typing and
grammar.
In the real world, nobody gives a fuck. Anyone looking at
*technical* documentation is interested in the *technical*
aspects of it, not the literary merits or editing involved.
If nit-picking is the best you can do to deride the state of
Linux documentation, I'd say we've come a long way indeed.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why use Linux?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:36:05 -0400
"Bas v.d. Wiel" wrote:
>
> Just my 2 cents:
>
> My Windows 2000 Advanced Server Beta 3 (yes BETA!) has been up and running
> for over 200 consecutive days now... and it won't crash at login prompts,
> won't saturate its memory or do anything else that slows it down or crashes
> it.
> The function of the machine? Www-proxy for about 75 PC's.
If you think this is impressive, then Linux will knock your socks off!
Get back to us when the machine is
A) Running a web server
B) Running an SMTP server
C) Running a POP server
D) Running an FTP server
E) Running an NFS server
Runnig a database engine or several is optional
All of this is WELL within the capabilities of any UNIX/Linux
platform, provided you have the memory and disk space to support
it. (typically MUCH less than the equivalent functionality on any
Windows machine).
Until then, your announcement sounds like a 20-year old man
announcing that, finally, after 15 years, he can ride down the
street on his bicycle without falling off (and he STILL has the
training wheels attached)
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I've always said: Netcraft numbers of full of it
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:38:12 -0400
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > Drestin Black wrote:
> > >
> > > I've always maintained what is obvious: Netcraft JUST counts domains and
> > > doesn't discriminate between a linux/apache domain of "joesmomma.com" vs
> > > W2K/IIS for dell.com - to Netcraft, they mean the same. So, all this
> Apache
> > > dominates the web is for those that think PURE number counts mean
> > > EVERYTHING. Bullshit I say. Someone finally proved it out for me.
> > >
> > > The companies that matter, those top companies, you know, money making
> ones?
> > > Companies that are concerned about their image, product, availability,
> > > uptime, performance and all that matters cause their name/image on-line
> > > matters - they are NOT using apache and MOST DEFINATLEY not using Linux!
> > >
> >
> > You're kidding, right?
> >
> > For 5 of the last 6 years, I have worked on Fortune 50 and a stock
> > brokerage. NONE of them puts webservers on LoseDOS Neutered Technology.
>
> Care to name it (them)? And, so what, so for 5 of the last 6 years you
> worked in A company that's a fortune 50 company and it doesn't use NT - so
> what? Check yourself, do your own netcraft What is it running tests and see
> who's lying/wrong? I mean, every company I've worked at for the last 8 years
> runs NT without exception - guess using your logic that means I should
> conclude that NONE of them puts webservers on free (you get what you pay
> for) apache? silly...
>
> only 5/6 years? A fortune 50 and a stock brokerage? Is this supposed to
> impress me? I've installed at over 40 of the fortune 500 -
> ever [sic] single one NT 4 and now W2K.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Could this be because you're too stupid to figure out Unix?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Are Linux people illiterate?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 15:29:50 GMT
In article <8kklln$gpq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Nice try, typical Linux user trying to skirt the issue.. My post is
not
> Linux Documentation. If you are posting technical documentation on
the
> web site, it should be at least readable. How lame.
I was able to read it. It was a great help. Mark was willing to take the
time to write a document that was useful to me. For that I say, Thanks
Mark.
>
> In article <8kif2e$qqd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > : A WHOLE bunch of typos at the Linux documentation project!
> >
> > That sentance has no verb.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > : --- I mean really,, what a bunch of retards! You all spent so much
> time
> > ^
> > Your punctuation needs work. Also, the phrase "you all" is
redundant,
> > unless you're from the southern U.S.
> >
> > : geeking that you never acquired spelling and grammar skills?
> Well..
> > : rest my case, the real world will ever take Linux seriously.
> >
> > Maybe you mean "*I* rest my case", unless you're instructing us to
> > rest your case for you.
> >
> > I'm fairly certain the Linux community doesn't take you seriously.
> > The rest of the world doesn't give a rat's ass about the occasional
> > typo since they're so prevalent on the internet anyway.
> >
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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