Linux-Advocacy Digest #696, Volume #28 Mon, 28 Aug 00 00:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows ("paul snow")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:45:59 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:35:28 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> >> >The fact that _anyone_ can graduate from High School without basic skills like
> >> >reading shows that there's a serious problem.
> >>
> >> Would you care to back up your bold claim with some statistics ?
> >
> >WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IS GOING ON when ILLITERATES are being
> >given high school diplomas?????
>
> That people who wouldn't finish high school in other countries finish
> it in the US ? It doesn't prove that the said illiterates would have
> done substantially better under a different system.
It demonstrates that our schools are fucked up. That they no longer
care about actual academic achievement, merely to go through the
motions, and who cares about the results.
>
> >In case you weren't aware of this trend...a football player...
> >
> >not *ONLY* a high school graduate...no...he was *ALSO* a
> >UNIVERSITY GRADUATE, *SUED* the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor,
> >for graduating him when he couldn't even read his own diploma.
> >
> >The case recieved national attention.
>
> Well, this is a spurious anecdote, and as such, it doesn't really prove
Actually, it's distressingly COMMON.
> anything. Instead of offering staistics, you're attempting to construct
> a case built on spurious anecdotes, and IMO, that is not a case at all.
The plural of "anecdote" is "data"
>
> I'd conjecture that if he was born in another country, he wouldn't be
> admitted to university in the first place. In other words, I dispute
> your claim that his incompetence was somehow caused by the University.
He graduated out of Detroit Public Schools an illiterate moron.
He was admitted to U of Michigan, Ann Arbor an illiterate moron.
He graduated from U of Michigan, Ann Arbor an illiterate moron.
Is any of this getting through to you?
If not, then you're not even as clever as the NCAA, who, after
that incident, mandated minimum SAT scores for "student"-athletes.
>
> I don't wish to completely dismiss the issue though. I believe that
> Universities need to hold their athletes to respectable academic
> standards, and obviously, they've failed in this instance.
It was so routine that the NCAA had to set minimum standardized test
scores for "student"-athletes.
>
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:48:36 -0400
ZnU wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe
> Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > ZnU wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Marion
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Perry Pip wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > And you want my taxes to pay for vouchers for that shit? No way.
> > > > >
> > > > > As someone who started out in public schools, then switched to
> > > > > private school, I can say without a doubt that the education I got
> > > > > at
> > > > > the private school was _much_ better then I could've gotten in the
> > > > > public system. My parents sacrificed a lot for my sister and I
> > > > > (and
> > > > > we both let them know that we appreciate what they did) to go to
> > > > > private school. I have plenty of friends that went to public
> > > > > school
> > > > > that wish they could've also gone to private school and talk about
> > > > > how bad they were/are.
> > > >
> > > > It depends where you live. In rich suburbs, the public schools are of
> > > > very high quality. They're properly funded. In inner cities, they're
> > > > woefully underfunded, and they're horrible.
> > > >
> > > > > BTW, I think the proper system would be to give a tax credit for
> > > > > someone that sends their kids to private schools.. which wouldn't
> > > > > cost you anything in taxes.
> > > >
> > > > The solution is to properly fund inner city schools, not drain even
> > > > more
> > > > money away from them.
> > >
> > > The city of Detroit spends $11,000 per pupil...almost TRIPLE what
> > > many private schools spend.
> > >
> > > And yet, the Detroit Public Schools are among the worst in the country.
> > >
> >
> >
> > The small private school my kids used to go to cost $3,300 per student.
> > I believe the tuition was about half the expense (an endowment paid the
> > rest). So, for $6,600 per student, we got class sizes of no more than 20
> > students, quite adequate facilities, and an education that put the kids
> > (on average) at about the 75th percentile, based on SAT scores.
> >
> > It's not about money.
>
> That private school gets to pick who it accepts, right? Will it take
> kids with serious learning disabilities? Behavioral/emotional problems?
The public schools have the SAME abilities...only, the refuse to
exercise them.
The public schools can discipline those who are disruptive in
the classroom offenders...but they refuse to do so.
The public schools can expel those who disrupt the school, but
they refuse to do so.
Hoisted by their own petards.
Actually, it's the tax-paying public who is paying for an K-12
"education"
but the money is instead being used for left-wing indoctrination.
> Below average intelligence? You can't just leave these people out of the
> system; if you don't do your best to educate them they'll only be even
> more of a burden on society later.
>
> --
> This universe shipped by weight, not volume. Some expansion may have
> occurred during shipment.
>
> ZnU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | <http://znu.dhs.org>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:49:49 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:29:07 GMT, Mike Marion wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> If you get into the details, which teachers see, but most people don't -- you
> >> find that the students with the problems are by and large the ones with
> >> problem homes. And it comes with them to school -- and what happenes to them
> >
> >I'm not arguing that point, but they shouldn't be allowed to graduate (so
> >called "social promotion") if they can't do what's required. The fact that
>
> I pretty much agree with you on this one. I believe that everyone should
> be allowed to work at their own pace, but I don't believe that they can
> both work at a different pace *and* graduate in the same time.
And at the same time, you argue that the US schools aren't fucked up...
As if graduating illiterates isn't fucked up.
>
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:54:08 -0400
josco wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> > ZnU wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe
> > > Ragosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ZnU
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Marion
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Perry Pip wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And you want my taxes to pay for vouchers for that shit? No way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As someone who started out in public schools, then switched to
> > > > > > private school, I can say without a doubt that the education I got at
> > > > > > the private school was _much_ better then I could've gotten in the
> > > > > > public system. My parents sacrificed a lot for my sister and I (and
> > > > > > we both let them know that we appreciate what they did) to go to
> > > > > > private school. I have plenty of friends that went to public school
> > > > > > that wish they could've also gone to private school and talk about
> > > > > > how bad they were/are.
> > > > >
> > > > > It depends where you live. In rich suburbs, the public schools are of
> > > > > very high quality. They're properly funded. In inner cities, they're
> > > > > woefully underfunded, and they're horrible.
> > > >
> > > > You might want to check your facts.
> > > >
> > > > The funding level in some of those inner city schools isn't very
> > > > different from suburban spending.
> > >
> > > In 1992 in New York state the richest (suburban, of course) school
> > > district spent $38,572 per student vs. $5,423 for the poorest (inner
> > > city).
> > >
> > > In Texas, it was $42,000 vs. $3,098.
> > >
> > > In Illinois, it was $16,700 vs. $2,276.
> > >
> > > > Money doesn't solve problems.
> > >
> > > No, but good teachers, good equipment and good facilities do, and money
> > > pays for all of that.
> >
> > Evidently, this man has never been in the military.
> >
> > The majority of my military training, the classes have either been
> > held outside (i.e. ***NO*** teaching facility), or some minimal
> > resources structure. I once had a class on military digital
> > telephone communications in a building that was literally falling
> > apart. No heat, broken windows, roof was leaking like a seive,
> > no electricity--the unit sponsoring the class had to bring in
> > a generator on a trailer just so we could have electricity for the
> > overhead projector (the facility was an old missile silo site south
> > of Detroit...and the surface buildings had not been maintained
> > in the slightest since the air force abandoned the site).
> >
> > And yet...despite tall of that....we learned the material.
> >
> > The problem with the public schools is *NOT* the quality of the
> > facilities...no...the problem with the public schools is what
> > material is being presented by the teachers...and what is not.
> >
>
> That's not a school. West Point is a Military School.
So is the infantry school at Fort Benning.
So is the Ranger school at Fort Benning.
So is the Special Forces school at Fort Bragg.
So is the Signal School at Fort Gordon
So is the Military Intelligence school at Fort Huichaca (sp?)
So is the Artillery School at Fort Sill
So is the Air Defense School at Fort Bliss
So is the Armored Warfare school at Fort Knox.
>
> Tell us about your days at West Point.
Make me.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:57:50 -0400
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:30:33 GMT, ZnU wrote:
>
> >That private school gets to pick who it accepts, right? Will it take
> >kids with serious learning disabilities? Behavioral/emotional problems?
> >Below average intelligence? You can't just leave these people out of the
> >system; if you don't do your best to educate them they'll only be even
> >more of a burden on society later.
>
> I'd like to develop this line of reasoning further. Kulkis seems to be
> trying to sell us on an exclusivist system. He points out that
> exclusive schools(1) display better performance. But his arguments
> fall short on two counts:
>
> (a) Excluding certain groups will not result in a better-educated
> population. All it does is hide the less capable from view of
> educational stats ( like SAT scores ). In short, it's a stats-scam.
>
> (b) It's not even obvious that the more gifted students would benefit
> from exclusionist practices. You'd need to show that *the same
> students* would have done worse under a less exclusionist system.
>
> In short, Kulkis's exclusionist vision has an agenda of hiding the less
> able from the statistics, rather than actually improving the quality of
> education.
>
> (1) By this, I mean schools with a self-selected population. This includes
> Catholic schools, not just snob-value schools.
So your proposal is.... stick with the current system which is not
merely failing, but failing catastrophically.
> --
> Donovan
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 04:06:33 GMT
> My response is in the other part of the thread. I'm not going to
> repeat it here. Basically, it sounds like you want some sort of
> meta-language to define installation procedures. This meta-language
> would generate install programs for each supported platform, or perhaps
> a database of some kind that could be used by the universal installer
> to actually do the install.
>
> You are aware that this is sort of how Installshield and RPM work,
> right? The developer creates scripts that describe his installation
> and the tool makes some assumptions, and everything usually works. You
> just want to make these scripts more abstract so that they'll work on
> different platforms, and make them editable so you can pre-configure
> your local setup.
>
> Is that about right?
Yes, I am quite aware that this is how Installshield and RPM work. That is
why I claim that all the information needed to re-factor the problem is
right there in our hands already.
Just stop for a moment and focus on the problem. Forget the execution
environment. Just picture installation and configuration as the process of
constructing and managing a large, but really rather simple data structure.
This data structure has internal references and pointers to other parts.
Some structures require particular versions of other structures in other
parts of the data structure.
If you can quit worrying for a moment about what the structures do, and just
focus on what they are and should be, it does indeed simplify the problem.
>From a data structure point of view, who really cares if one file is a font
file, one is executable, another is an initial database, a library, a
graphics file, a PDF, some html, or what ever. Or even that one file is
part of a service, another a driver, another part of the OS. It doesn't
matter what the files are, but it does matter that the files are in their
proper directories, with the proper configuration settings pointing to them.
And what cares (the OS, application, a driver, etc.) An application can be
just as dead from a missing configuration file as from a missing library
file. Or font. A graphic. whatever. And if an application is having
problems, it would be nice to know what structures I should check first.
So of course I don't want to generate install programs. Why would I? Why
even bother? The approach I am talking about simply provides structural
information about the computer system, its OS, applications, and
configuration. XML after all is in many ways a text form of a database.
Take the XML descriptions of what structures are required for each software
component. Take any set of options that are givens for this configuration.
Evaluate what should then be done to construct each software component into
this data structure that happens to be a file system. Then just render the
proper structures into storage, and keep track of what structures are being
modified, and why.
Check now and again that the structures within a computer system align with
the requirements for each software component as detailed in their XML
description. And sure, all of this information is likely to be managed
within a database.
If this is being done outside the OS (logically or even literally) then
there is really no reason the same facility can't manage different platforms
(like Solaris, Windows, Palm pilots, Linux, etc.).
Do I get some advantages? You bet. I can manage an OS even if the OS isn't
functional. If a set of applications have XML definitions that detail their
rendering, I can upgrade machines by simply rendering them as a block to the
new machine. If all the applications have renderings on two different
platforms (like Linux and Windows), I could even move a complicated
configuration from one OS to another rather simply.
I can detect if structures that should be locked down have been changed. If
this is a separate facility, I can detect hacked web sites, and fix them up,
even if the hacking got through the execution environment's security.
If I involve the various Operating Systems in this process, and all the
abstractions they define, then I complicate the process. I can't handle key
OS components the same way I handle other structures, if for no other reason
than the fact that these structures are being used. The facility itself is
exposed to anything that might happen within the execution environment.
If you were going to build a literally separate facility, doing so on Linux
makes the most sense.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 00:02:37 -0400
C Lund wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > You've never heard of the "working poor", have you? Look it up.
> > Any body in the United States who "works hard" and has even the
> > slightest clue about
> > a) saving money vs. spending habits
> > and
> > b) the fluidity of the job market (i.e. you can always go get a
> > NEW job if don't like what you're getting paid.).
> > Those who are the working poor are either
> > a) too stupid to save money (they blow it on shit they can't afford)
> > and/or
> > b) too lazy to find a better paying job.
>
> Another republican living in an ivory tower.
Fuck you. I've never been a republican.
As for ivory towers...I've been flat broke a couple times in my
life. The difference between me and welfare slobs is realizing
that
A) There was only one person responsible for me getting into the mess:
ME
and
B) The only person who can truly get me out is: ME.
> When you work a full-time job and *still* can't afford to pay the rent,
> you're among the working poor. Some even have *two* full-time jobs and are
If you're working a full-time job and *still* can't afford to pay
the rent, then I might suggest getting rid of the car with $700/month
payments, and quit blowing the rest on booze/drugs/hookers or whatever
the fuck it is that you're wasting your money on.
One can go practically *anywhere* and find living quarters for
less than $200/month. Will it be a mansion? Of course not.
So what. If that's all you can afford, then THAT is where
you stay...deal with it.
> barely capable of making ends meet. Not because of laziness. Not because
> they have expencive habits or do drugs or buy crap they can't afford, but
> simply because they don't get paid very much. When you have two full-time
> jobs, you don't have the time to go looking for a better job. In fact,
> those one or two jobs might be the only ones you could get. Not everybody
> has a rich daddy who could pay for college. Not everybody qualifies for a
> scholarship. And not everybody had a life situation that allowed them to
> get a proper education. Life is tough on some people whetehr they deserve
> it or not.
You are truly out of touch with fucking reality.
>
> You need to get out more.
>
> --
>
> C Lund
> http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
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