Linux-Advocacy Digest #696, Volume #32 Thu, 8 Mar 01 00:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American (Aaron Kulkis)
Windows emulators (Michael Mamone)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Things Linux can't do! (Bloody Viking)
Re: .NET is plain .NUTS (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Windows Owns Desktop, Extends Lead in Server Market (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Windows Owns Desktop, Extends Lead in Server Market (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Windows Owns Desktop, Extends Lead in Server Market (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Sun Blade 100 ("GreyCloud")
Re: I am looking for a newsreader ("GreyCloud")
Re: Mircosoft Tax ("GreyCloud")
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Open Source better be careful - The Microsoft Un-American
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:50:02 -0500
Karel Jansens wrote:
>
> Bloody Viking wrote:
> >
> > For energy _storage media_ like hydrogen (takes more energy than you get,
> > hence "storage media") you need a _source_ to have it. Breeders like crazy? I
> > say yes, but we all know about the politics of nuke plants. Nukes is the long
> > term solution, to power homes and factories, electric rail, etc. Hydrogen has
> > the annoying problem of being awful cold, second to liquid helium.
> >
> This question is probably out-of-bounds for this newsgroup (but then
> again, is it <G>?): How difficult is it to "transform" hydrogen into
> more manageable hydrocarbons, like methane or alcohol?. If that could be
> done easily, a home-based powerplant would not sound so wild anymore
> (use solar, wind, whatever to generate power and store as
> easily-manageable alcohol or methane).
There are LOTS of bacteria which produce hydrocarbons as a waste product.
All it we need to do is cultivate them, just like we do chickens
for their eggs.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Karel Jansens
> ==============================================================
> "You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
> ==============================================================
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Michael Mamone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows emulators
Date: 8 Mar 2001 15:48:42 +1100
It seems that the demands of Uni mean the end of my "No Windows" policy.
I still want to maintain my dignity, however, so I'd like to try out
VMWare or Win4Lin.
What would I find better, Win4Lin running '98 (advantage of speed), or
something like VMWare (advantage of more 'robust' MS OS's).
Ta.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:51:24 -0500
Paolo Ciambotti wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Donovan Rebbechi"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Give some examples of highly intelligent people like this.
> >
> > I'd give myself as an example. But then, I didn't score poorly on the IQ
> > test I took. I suppose some speedier types may have scored slightly
> > higher.
> >
> > It may be possible that there are people who are statistical anomolies
> > (for example, maybe someone with a learning disability takes twice as
> > long, but produces accurate answers) and anyone who believes a single
> > number to be a comprehensive measure of man needs to have his IQ
> > tested(-;
>
> I guess I'm one of those anomolies. I have a disability call Asperger's
> syndrome. I got tested three times in school between the fifth grade and
> graduation because of my learning problems. My Stanford-Binet varied
> between 148 and 166, but according to my SAT scores I couldn't even
> spell my name right. Go figure.
>
> Actually, it's sort of a neat disability. A lot of Asperger's sufferers are
> inclined toward the computer industry. For instance, if I'm programming
> an application that requires an N-dimensional array, I can actually
> visualize such an array in my mind where non-sufferers are stuck with
> only two or maybe three dimensions. I think in pictures, everything is
> graphically represented. Verbal communications sucks, and writing
> something like this is a chore you wouldn't believe because I've already
> multitasked to the end of this document and I have no idea how to accurately
> convey my thoughts in such a dimensionless medium as sequential text.
>
This would explain Gates' abhorance for the command line.
> See what I mean?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Things Linux can't do!
Date: 8 Mar 2001 04:52:05 GMT
Dominic Vernius ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: BSOD...
... be emulated on an NT box without being able to make NT BSOD.
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .NET is plain .NUTS
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:53:05 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> >> > Even books. You can scan them, run the bitmaps through optical
> >> >> > character recognition software, and completely copy the book
> >> >> > digitally with little chance of discovery (other than your own
> >> >> > popularity).
> >> >>
> >> >> But you then have to print it. Bear in mind that a 650M CD is about
> >> >> 50p, but to print a book without very specialised is quite
> >> >> expensive,
> >> >> and depending on the book, lower quality.
> >> >
> >> > 300-600 dpi laser printers is good for most books.
> >>
> >> Yep. If 300-600 dpi is suitable for a particular book, then that book
> >> is probably printed on very cheap paper, using a very cheap bulk
> >> printing machine, making the copy very expensive.
> >>
> >> If its an expensive book (eg one with very high quality colour plates),
> >> then nothing short of a top notch color laser printer would get you the
> >> same quality, unless you spent a fortune on glossy paper.
> >>
> >
> > Barnes and Noble is now doing exactly that...because print-on-demand for
> > small circulation books is less costly than the production costs of
> > short-print runs..especially full-color stoff.
>
> They can afford the very expensive equipment needed to make the
> individual print outs cheap.
>
And lots of other people have *access* to similar equipment, even
though they don't own it.
> -Ed
>
> --
> | Edward Rosten
> | u98ejr@
> This argument is a beta version. | ecs.ox
> | .ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Windows Owns Desktop, Extends Lead in Server Market
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:54:03 -0500
chrisv wrote:
>
> "Masha Ku'Inanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Othertimes, people'd come in wanting to buy Red-hat linux, and I'd point 'em
> >to the book-section. (Linux Bible series). They'd ask "Why not get the full
> >version?.." I'd tell em "Why? This is still a full installation, for half of
> >the retail box, and you get this thick 'manual' with it.."
> >
> >The expressions are always priceless..
>
> What's their expression like when they find out your store has, like,
> ZERO Linux apps for sale, while there's THOUSANDS of Windows apps on
> the shelves?
Who the fuck cares....I have THOUSANDS of Linux Apps on my SuSE CD's.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows Owns Desktop, Extends Lead in Server Market
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:55:18 -0500
chrisv wrote:
>
> Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>>The expressions are always priceless..
> >>
> >> What's their expression like when they find out your store has, like,
> >> ZERO Linux apps for sale, while there's THOUSANDS of Windows apps on
> >> the shelves?
> >
> >Weird. Do you always value your things based on how much money you can
> >spend on them?
>
> LOL! That's the first time I've seen someone has argued that a lack
> of apps is a GOOD thing! Keep up the good work, Joker!
You dipshit.
When you buy a Red Hat or SuSE or Mandrake or whatever distribution
you desire...you ***GET*** ***THOUSANDS**** ***OF*** ****APPS****
with the distribution.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Windows Owns Desktop, Extends Lead in Server Market
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:59:00 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : True. But I consider this all to be the moral equivalent of
> : drug-land gang wars, with occassional users becoming ill because
> : shipments were contaminated by rival factions employing moles or
> : other such chicanery.
>
> That is one way to look at it. Both warring factions harm consumers. We merely
> get to choose sides in their battle to be the group more harmful to the
> consumer. For us to take sides in that battle would be like a "good guy gang"
> choosing sides, however, like the Gardian Angels or the polics picking to
> support the Crips or the Bloods. Or even choosing sides with the CPD, corrupt
> to the core, or the Black Gangster Desciples. Both of those latter gangs have
> about 30,000 troops.
Here's my way of looking at it.
Windows users are like millionaires who, for whatever reason,
CHOOSE to live in a flop house over run with drug dealers from
rival factions.
When they come up injured after the latest drive-by shooting,
all i can say is: "So, are you going to continue to stay where
you are, or have you finally seen the light and realized that
the only way to security is to leave that shit behind and
move to Unix/Linux-land"
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sun Blade 100
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:57:13 -0800
"Tim Cain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> GreyCloud wrote:
> >
> > Has anybody looked into the new Sun Blade 100?? It's around $1K, 64-bit
> > sparc, 128M, 18Gb drive, Cd-rom.
> > Runs at 500 Mhz. Uses ECC memory expandable to 2Gb. Has Gnome
available
> > for it bundled in along with the other gpl software. It appears to be a
> > good buy, but I'll take a coffee break and see what others have to say
about
> > it.
>
> Looks pretty interesting. I'm tickled pink at the thought of having
> a Sun box sitting in my home-study, but OTOH, what the hell would
> I do with all those MIPS/FLOPS or whatever?
>
> Running Linux, my old AMD k6/200 is plenty fast enough for the stuff
> I want to do: Surf the net, browse the news, a bit of spreadsheeting,
> some (very) lightweight development...
>
> It's still a very appealing idea, though. Are there any packaged
> distributions
> (a la Mandrake etc) for the Sparc platform? I guess HW support may be
> less of
> an issue here, as well (A *big* guess).
>
> Best,
>
> Tim.
Yes, there are Linux packages for the Sparc processors. Considering that
this one is a 64 bit one, and $995, I looked at suns web site and found that
gcc comes with it as well as jdk1.3. Star Office 5.2 is bundled in.
Seems to be better than microsofts deal... all I'd need then is just buy a
PS2 to handle the games. I'm looking at it as a hobby machine that will
stay stable. Solaris, at least on a billy -box, is slower than linux by
quite a bit.
But it does offer one the opportunity to study the o/s. One can download
all of their documentation and print it, or just read it on line,(which is
included). For this price its better than the itanium. I've read a few
newsgroups regarding the intel processor line. one engineer said that intel
made a bad design decision and that the p4 is actually hobbled by this
decision. A test was done using business software that had shown the pIII
to be faster than the p4 in these areas. Said it had something to do with
faulty branch predictions.
The only downside I see is if one wanted to get Suns C++ compiler... its
$2000, and not worth it.
Thats why I snarfed around and managed to get a Vax 4000. Joined Deccus for
$40, got a vms license for $40, and got vax fortran, basic, pascal, C, and
Cobol. Came with CDE by Dec with all the libraries. From my old days as a
sysadmin for the Navy Dept. the vms libraries and runtime libraries work as
advertised. There were never any surprises about what I wanted it to do and
have always gotten what I programmed to work without
extensive research. Sad part may be that the vax days are waning. I sure
enjoyed using their machines.
Cheers.
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From: "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I am looking for a newsreader
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:59:25 -0800
"Faheem Mitha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 03:01:09 GMT, Brad Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Knode is ok but I want something like Xnews, that I can run on
> >my linux partition (SuSE 7.0, KDE 2.1). I have tried krn and did
> >not like it either.
>
> Slrn is wonderful. It doesn't have a gui interface (it is a console
> newsreader like tin) but it is extremely fast over slow connections,
> very stable, can be easily customised, and is extremely pleasant to
> use. Also, it looks extremely cool, what with all threading and
> whatnot. And the fact that it runs on the console means you can
> easily use it over a remote (ssh or whatever) connection. Give it a
> try!
>
> Sincerely, Faheem Mitha.
Hi, I've got Slrn on my Solaris 8 box, but never used it. Guess I'll have
to give it a try!
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From: "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:07:33 -0800
"Donovan Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
<snip>
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:50:16 GMT, Giuliano Colla wrote:
> I don't think you'd have found the situation in Linux much better before
> Qt/GTK. Back then, all the "serious" GUI applications (a console app with
> a lightweight GUI doesn't count) were done in Motif, and there simply
> wasn't anything free to work with. The motif apps had to be distributed
> statically linked because the stupid thing required a runtime license
> (WTF???)
Now one can go to sun.com and download solaris 8 for intel for free.
Better have a fast connection tho! Sun uses an application builder program
thats very similar to mickeysoft, where one just picks and chooses what one
wants in their gui. After that you have to program the core of the program
like everybody else has to. I'm beginning to think that sun is getting a
little
scared about linux.
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