Linux-Advocacy Digest #948, Volume #28 Wed, 6 Sep 00 08:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Rick)
Printing ("Chris")
Re: businesses are psychopaths (Phillip Lord)
Re: How low can they go...? (Zenin)
Re: businesses are psychopaths (Phillip Lord)
Re: how large corporations test on the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised (Phillip Lord)
Re: Open lettor to CommyLinux Commy's, and all other commy's to. ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
says Linux growth stagnating ("Christopher Smith")
Re: Computer and memory ("Christophe Ochal")
Re: Computer and memory ("Christophe Ochal")
Re: Computer and memory ("Christophe Ochal")
Re: Computer and memory ("Christophe Ochal")
Re: Computer and memory ("Christophe Ochal")
Re: Computer and memory ("Christophe Ochal")
Re: Computer and memory ("Christophe Ochal")
Re: Computer and memory ("Christophe Ochal")
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 06:18:13 -0400
"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>
> Rick wrote:
> >
> > "Joe R." wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Courageous
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > But a better thing would be to make the public schools at least as
> > > > > good as the private schools. I believe, perhaps naively, that this
> > > > > can be done; and even more naively, that it isn't simply a matter of
> > > > > money.
> > > >
> > > > It's much a matter of money; halving the class sizes requires doubling
> > > > the number of teachers, for example.
> > >
> > > If you believe that class size is the only thing wrong with the schools,
> > > of course.
> > >
> >
> > It is by no means the only thng wrong, but is a large part in some
> > areas.
>
> Please explain why the best universities in the world routinely
> put their students through classes where the material is taught
> in lectures where the class size is in the HUNDREDS.
>
Generally speak, those universities attract better students. Those
students have learned how to learn.
> Class size has nothing to do with it...it's the brain-damaged
> curricula, and dumbed-down text books.
>
Im sure your vast teaching experience dictates this viewpoint.
--
Rick
* To email me remove theobvious from my address *
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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printing
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 20:21:53 +1000
Hi everyone,
I've just begun working for a rather well known printer company and I was
wondering what support Linux has for printers. And I am not just talking
straight postscript-in-ghostscript and pipe to the printer, but for support
for other things like printer-head cleaning and other specialised
printer-functions.
Chris
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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.gis,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: businesses are psychopaths
Date: 06 Sep 2000 10:36:40 +0100
>>>>> "Phil" == phil hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Phil> A better start would be from evolution. Selfish behaviour can
Phil> be defined as any behaviour that furthers the survival of the
Phil> gene that codes for it. (Note that tha behaviour may be in an
Phil> organism other than the organism that the gene is in, e.g. the
Phil> way rabies alters mammalian behaviour).
The point behind the idea of the selfish gene is to highlight
the idea that the gene and not the organism is the unit of
selection. Its an important idea and helps us understand many parts of
biology, but its also a simplification. Even if the gene is selfish
this does not prevent co-operative behaviour between genes,
individuals and species.
>>> Dawkins would also be the first to point out, for instance, that
>>> the term 'species' is likewise meaningless, from a genetic
>>> perspective.
Phil> I doubt that Dawkins would point out any such thing. Species
Phil> are the units on which evolution operates.
We have many different definitions of species, none of which
are perfect, and all of which differ somewhat. Species is a term of
convenience, rather than a clear cut concept. I don't think that this
makes the word "meaningless", but then again its not rigidly defined
either.
Phil
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From: Zenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 10:27:28 GMT
[ BTW, please don't modify the followup line to bogus groups ]
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: But hold it a sec; you can't *patent* an algorithm. No wonder I'm
: confused. Sounds like a little research is in order. Research assistance
: gratefully appreciated. Follow-ups set on my way out the door. CU.
Welcome to the United States of America, were one is most positively
allowed to "patent an algorithm", such as LZW compression used in
GIF images, Diffie-Helman and RSA used for encryption, etc.
You might want to start your research with:
http://www.openpatents.org/
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From The Blue Camel we learn:
BSD: A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at UC
Berkeley or thereabouts. Similar in many ways to the prescription-only
medication called "System V", but infinitely more useful. (Or, at least,
more fun.) The full chemical name is "Berkeley Standard Distribution".
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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.gis,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: businesses are psychopaths
Date: 06 Sep 2000 10:41:03 +0100
>>>>> "Richard" == Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >> Dawkins would also be the first to >> point out, for instance,
>> that the term 'species' is likewise >> meaningless, from a
>> genetic perspective.
>>
>> I doubt that Dawkins would point out any such thing. Species are
>> the units on which evolution operates.
Richard> Especially since 'species' is very well defined in biology
Richard> as the population whose chromosomes will anneal (sp) with
Richard> each other.
"anneal" is correctly spelt here, but the word that you are
actually looking for is "synapse" (as a verb not a noun).
There are many different definitions of "species". This is
not usually one of them, although synapsis is necessary for sexual
reproduction, and the ability to reproduce is used in many different
definitions.
I was under the impression that you thought "species" was
meaningless, and now you just after telling me that you think species
is "very well defined in biology". I am confused.
Phil
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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.gis,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: how large corporations test on the Psychopathy Checklist-Revised
Date: 06 Sep 2000 10:58:22 +0100
>>>>> "Stefaan" == Stefaan A Eeckels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stefaan> Genes carry information that can cause creatures to behave
Stefaan> in a certain way across generations.
>> Possibly. The way in which behaviour is affected by genetics is
>> poorly understood at the moment. This is particularly true in the
>> case of humans.
Stefaan> Notice _can cause_.
As I said perhaps. I am not sure of any really clear cut cases
of behavioural patterns being caused directly by genetic variation.
>> I am far from convinced that genetics has got that much to say
>> about the way that our society is, except in the very broad
>> sweep. Our genes probably tell us that staying alive is a good
>> thing. However as many societies have shown us even that can be
>> overcome.
Stefaan> Correct, and this is why most of the traits that are
Stefaan> genetically determined were acquired when we were still
Stefaan> walking across the African savannah.
I wonder how the variability in these genes has been
maintained from such a distance. The point is that something being
"affected by our genes" is only meaningful if we have
variation. Behaviour is clearly "determined" by the genes in one
sense. Our brains are produced of protein, the protein encoded by
genes, and our brains determine our behaviour. Whilst this may be
true, its entirely useless. We can ask "how much of the variation in
behaviour is due to variation in the genes, and how much due to
variation in the environment". If this variability has not survived
since the savannah, then there is no question that we can
meaningfully ask here.
Stefaan> My reaction was to Richard's assertion:
>>> Humans are programmed (by selfish /genes/) to act in a selfless
>>> manner. And they are so programmed because altruism and
>>> cooperation are absolutely necessary for any functioning
>>> society.
Which you are perfectly reasonably to react to. Its a silly
statement. The analogy of a human to a computer program can be useful
in a limited sense. I doubt that we are "programmed" to do
anything. As for how much of our societal tendency is "encoded in the
genes", who knows. I am not sure that this is a meaningful question.
Stefaan> What is beyond doubt is that we do not consider all humans
Stefaan> equally important, and that on the whole, people favour
Stefaan> their close relations.
People favour those that they define as they close relations.
Which more or less collapses to a tautology, we define close relations
as those that we favour. I am sure you would agree that the existence
of friendship is considered as important as family in many societies.
Stefaan> But to assert that we are _not_ inclined to favour those we
Stefaan> feel closer to is unadulterated wishful thinking.
Which is why I did not assert this. I said that we are largely
incapable of determining whether or not we are related to an arbitrary
individual, and that the dynamic of society operates often outside
genetic relationship. That we have family units, with children often
bought up by parents is unsurprising as its reflects fundamental
biology. However the way in which the family unit works differs widely
from society to society. The US nuclear family is in no way God
given nor universal. The only assertion that I have made, and that I
would stick by is that if you want to look for explanations of
society, look for them in society, and not in genetics.
Phil
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Open lettor to CommyLinux Commy's, and all other commy's to.
Date: 6 Sep 2000 11:24:40 GMT
Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> How does *anyone* survive in Detroit?
:>
:> Joe
: It's easy! Live in the suburbes ;-)
: Only venture into the city limits for Red Wings hockey games.
I had a good friend who lived just a bit north of Auburn Hills, and
coming from northeast Ohio, the most logical way to get there was
pretty much straight through Detroit on I-75.
It was always interesting because at night Detroit's skyline looks
much like any other medium-large city, and, like most U.S. cities, it
is indeed surrounded by beautiful suburban and exurban areas. But by
day, you could see (in mid-90s - this may have changed) a number of
tall buildings downtown that have been burned or bombed out, in
varying stages of disrepair.
Another interesting experience was driving through town on the surface
streets early Sunday morning (generally the safest time to be in any
inner-city area). There appear to be parts of the city that are
TOTALLY abandoned, with no habitable buildings of any kind (though
there are the boarded-up remains of what obviously used to be very
beautiful apartment buildings), no factories, former sidewalks and
driveways almost completely overgrown with weeds, and not even the
usual remnant of drunk, stoned, and/or homeless people wandering about
as there are in places where people still actually live. Anything
that was wood was burned long ago. Only brick and cement structures
still stand. Not all the city is like that - not even all of the
inner city - but parts of it are worse by orders of magnitude than
anything else I've ever seen.
I'm told that unlike any other city north of the Mason-Dixon line (and
Detroit is amnog the northernmost U.S. cities), Detroit does not plow
snow from any of its own streets. It does plow Interstate and
State/federal highways, because it is paid by the State and/or federal
governments to do so. Apparently it only has a few dozen snowplows
working at any one time. It would be impossible for many people to
get to their jobs under such conditions. If they had jobs.
Some of the suburbs are nice. But they are only miles or at most tens
of miles away from what might be North America's largest concentration
of crime, poverty, and utter hopelessness.
I grew up in a rough part of Cleveland during some of its worst days,
and I've seen and visited some of the nastiest parts of Chicago, DC,
the Bronx, and lots of other places. None of that prepared me for the
horror of inner-city Detroit. It has to be seen to be believed.
Other rust-belt cities like Cleveland and Pittsburgh did manage to
survive the deindustrialization that killed Detroit. Pittsburgh is a
thriving city today. Cleveland is still struggling, but is generally
acknowledged to be a decent place to live - a far cry from the 70s
when rivers burned, the city defaulted on its debts, and the
population shrunk by more than a third. But Detroit, last time I
checked, showed very few signs of life. I wonder if it will be the
first U.S. city to be totally abandoned. I hope not, because there
is a lot of history there, a lot of former beauty (some of which could
be restored given sufficient resources), and most importantly, over a
million underemployed or unemployed people who, given a little bit of
job training and neighborhoods safe enough for businesses to move back
to, would be more than capable of turning the city around.
Joe
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From: "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
says Linux growth stagnating
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 22:07:07 +1000
"Donovan Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:32:02 -0400, JS/PL wrote:
> >anti-microsoft crowd around here. Given the fact that your posting to
> >comp.os.linux.advocacy and comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy using Windows
98
> >in your leisure time I believe your quite a fool to be bad mouthing the
> >company that makes it possible for your little OEM monitor to create
light.
> >Now don't you?
>
> I wish he'd stop masquerading as a Linux advocate. He's an embarrassment.
Most advocates are ;).
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From: "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:50:35 +0200
Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
j7it5.7780$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:336t5.788$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> : gimme a break, most Europeans speak 3 to 4 languages, how many Americans
> can
> : say that?
>
> Then you give me a break.... most Europeans don't speak 3 to 4 languages,
> that's just a myth. You are really pushing the envelop.
I speak 3, so does everyone i know here in Belgium, and i know alot of
people who speak 4 langauges
> : > So then it's America's fault that UK can't produce it's on steel
> : (metaphorically
> : > speaking)? America got the edge and surpassed the world in technology
> and
> :
> : Arrogance again?
>
> More like the truth...
Yea right....
> : > now all the poor, disparaged countries (modern, western countries I
> might
> : add)
> : > were left in the dirt with only their arrogance and presumptousness in
> : their
> :
> : Here, have a mirror
>
> What's the bandwidth to that mirror :)?
I'm waiting for my cable connection, i live in a small town, not available
atm :(
> : > hands, so now we have to ante up and divulge all the technology we've
> : spent
> : > billions researching and developing?
> :
> : How much of your technology is actually manufactured in the States, and
> not
> : in Taiwan?
>
> Who gives a damn in today's global economy? Europians can buy it just like
> US does. Not to mention the fact that most of those technologies were
> developed in the US, during the times when the Europian countries were
> bickering against each others.
LOL
> : You really should look in the mirror
>
> And you should start to think about what you see in the mirror. If anybody
> is arrogant then it is the Europeans, they have nothing but complains...
I have no reason to complain, i speak multiple languages, i have a good &
free health insurance, assured incomes even if i loose my job, i can buy
just about anything i need.
What i am reacting against is the attitude you & chad have, you seem to
think that the us is the centre of the world, well, guess what, there's
nothing but magma in the centre of the world.
You're just as dependant on other countries as they are on you, so what if
most of the current tech is invented in the states, you sell it to anyone
willing to buy it anyway.
You guys are no worse or better then Europeans, Asians or whatever, live
with it
Amon_Re
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From: "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:51:46 +0200
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
8p3pbq$vm1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Darren Winsper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 00:12:51 GMT, Chad Myers
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > How come it's always America helping out the Brits. What's the UK ever
> > > done for us but give us some mohawked punk bands?
> >
> > At least us Brits know the meaning of the term "friendly fire".
> >
>
> Incomming friendly fire is not friendly.
ROFL
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From: "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:52:51 +0200
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
PMjt5.34734$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:6ait5.7781$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Grega Bremec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
> > : "Don't give the beggar the fish he wants - teach him how to catch them
> > : instead."
>
> (... and they call us Americans ignorant and uncultured...)
>
>
> > Neglecting the fact that you'd need to supply him some fishing equipment
> > also. Tell him to get a job and then he can buy the damn fish :).
>
> Job? Nah, the socialist government will provide him with a brand new
> pole, a private lake fully stocked, bait for 3 years and a fishing boat
> all courtesy of the the taxpayers.
At least we look after our less fortunate civilians
Amon_Re
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From: "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:55:10 +0200
The Ghost In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in
berichtnieuws [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Christophe Ochal
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote
> on Tue, 5 Sep 2000 10:05:31 +0200
> <%26t5.783$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >Grega Bremec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> ...and Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> used the keyboard:
> >> >Perhaps you should be writing your government then.
> >> >
> >> >It's not America's fault your country(ies) are behind
> >> >in technology.
> >> >
> >> >-Chad
> >>
> >> American attitude at its best!
> >>
> >> "Noooo, we won't tell you how to encrypt your data using 8192-bit
> >> strong encryption. But it's not our fault if you can't figure it out
> >> on your own..."
> >>
> >> DOH!
> >
> >Actually, encryption is tied to some very stupid laws in the States,
> >basicly, if the feds can crack the encryption, it's not allowed to be
used
> >by the public, talk about "right to privicy"
>
> I think you mean "can't", and that's recently changed if I'm not
> mistaken -- but I agree, it's stupid. (And with our luck the
> new conditions are even more confusing than the old ones.)
D'oh! Typo :) yea, i meant can't :)
How about the DMCA? What's that about? <grin>
> I can't seem to locate an exact quote, but I seem to remember that
> Louis Freeh, otherwise known as the Head of the FBI, has stated that
> he wishes to be able to decode and read any ciphered text, should the
> courts require it. This was some months -- years? -- back.
Yea, talk about you're right for privicy...
> Good luck, Mr. Freeh. You'll need it. :-)
I'll never willingly cooperate with such an individual
> (One might be able to get the private key of a willing party,
> though, such as a bank on the other end of an (alleged!) illicit
> transaction.)
Yea, i want to keep my money ;)
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From: "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:02:53 +0200
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 2:1 wrote:
> >
> > > Britain is behind in technlogoy because THEY CHOOSE TO BE BEHIND in
> > > technology.
> >
> > That is utter bullshit. And you have an annoying, crap sig. What is
> > more, you seem unable to snip.
>
> Are you claiming that Britain has a more robust VLSI industry?
No, he's saying he can get the same stuff as you, it doesn't mean it's being
build in the UK for that tho
> What British company is currently designing and manufacturing
> servers of comparable quality to Sun Enterprise series or
> HP servers?
I was about to panic there, i thought you would mention Comcrap in the same
line....
BTW, wasn't HP a Brittish company in the beginning? Not sure tho..
> What British company is currently manufacturing 32-bit and/or 64-bit
> CPUs?
AMD has a plant in the UK iirc
> > We are not behind in technology. Granted, most stuff in the US is
> > cheaper, but higher tech?
>
> Who's designing it?
Not relevant to the discussion at hand
> Who's manufacturing it?
Not relevant to the discussion at hand
> Who owns the factories that are doing the manufacturing?
Again not relelant.
<cut>
This started with chad saying we're behind on tech, witch is not true for a
simple, obvious reason, anything made in the US is *EXPORTED* to Europe,
thus we can have the same crap you guys have.
If this does mean Europe is being 'behind' it won't be more then a few
weeks/months anyway.
BTW, you guys should be carefull, Asian countries have done quite some
catching up, they might just pass you guys sooner or later...
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From: "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:04:51 +0200
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Christophe Ochal wrote:
<cut>
> > Why do you think this is, do you know what the people there are payed by
the
> > month? And do you know who their biggest customers are? Do you even know
> > *why* these are "low wages" countries?
> >
> > There's no way the UK can compete with these
>
> The US has domestic memory-fab facilities. Why not the UK?
>
> American wages are within 10% of British wages.
Geological situations, Economical situations, this is a complex matter, but
if they *could* compete, they *would* compete
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From: "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:07:57 +0200
The Ghost In The Machine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in
berichtnieuws [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<cut>
> >It's not us European's fault that M$ *NEEDS* such big patches & SP's.
> >BTW, are we being arrogant today?
>
> He is, anyway. :-)
>
> (Besides, the US is behind in technology to Japan, who already has
> Java technology -- I think -- to have two people call each other
> on their cell phones and play whatever game takes their fancy thereon.
> So there, Chad :-P~ :-) )
They even has watches with integrated phones, these guys are clever,
hardworking and sincere, they have accomplished very much in a rather short
amount of time (historicly speaking)
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From: "Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 13:13:06 +0200
Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in berichtnieuws
%3it5.28269$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > He is, anyway. :-)
>
> Look who's talking...
I'm looking, but i only see one arrogant ass arround here, namely, yours
> > (Besides, the US is behind in technology to Japan, who already has
> > Java technology -- I think -- to have two people call each other
> > on their cell phones and play whatever game takes their fancy thereon.
> > So there, Chad :-P~ :-) )
>
> I didn't say the US was the supreme almighty, you ignorant euro-twits
> always read words into everything and then bash us for it.
That's the way it comes over to people, learn to express yourself more
clearly then, afterall, English is your native tongue, not mine
> Aren't the schools any good there in Europe? Don't they teach basic
> reading comprehension skills?
Yes, what did they teach you? How to shoot up your friends at school? Or how
to deal drugs?
> Yes, Japan has many more advances than the US does. They even have
> less beuacracy in their government allowing for more widespread
> technology use without fear of government intervention.
They have export regulations too, just like any other country
> But at least our worthless government is slightly more worthful
How can anything worthless be worthfull in the same sentence?
> than your governments and at least we can have _SOME_ competition
Yea right, tell me, what happens if you loose your job?
> in our telco marketplace and we haven't socialized everything yet
Socialism isn't evil, it has many advantages just as it has disadvantages,
it's a sword with 2 edges, just like your government is
> like you guys have.
Yes, he are asured to have an income even without a job
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