Linux-Advocacy Digest #171, Volume #29 Mon, 18 Sep 00 03:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Jason Bowen)
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Bob Germer)
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Jason Bowen)
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Bob Germer)
Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie! ("Erik
Funkenbusch")
Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools) (Bob Germer)
Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools) (Jason Bowen)
Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie!
Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie!
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Bob Germer)
Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools) (Bob Germer)
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Jason Bowen)
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Bob Germer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen)
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Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: 18 Sep 2000 05:54:51 GMT
In article <39c5acb0$6$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 09/18/2000 at 05:12 AM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
>
>> >> You're analogy was very poor. There is proof that CFC's are by-products
>> >> of certain aerosols, simple chemistry shows that. CFS's also destroy
>> >> O3, plenty of proof for that.
>> >
>> >There you go again. Stating as fact disputed theory. You are the type of
>> >asshole who persecuted Copernicus because he said the earth and planets
>> >revolved around the sun.
>
>> Sorry asshole that is fact. Your really need to learn that, take
>> chem101.
>
>What is a fact? There is no proof outside the laboratory in controlled
>experiments that CFC's destroy ozone. There are THEORIES, but not a single
>FACT. I learned 50 years ago that if I cannot observe, measure, and
>eliminate any other possible explanation for my measurements and
>observations, that I have not proven my theory.
>
>When it comes to Ozone holes, there are other equally plausible
>explanations which likewise cannot be proven.
See your showing your bias. Have I mentioned the ozone hole once? You
mentioned Copernicus being persecuted and yet you'd do the same for people
looking for answers as to what is happening with out world today.
>
>> >
>> >> I don't know about Joe, but I am no
>> >> liberal, pretty conservative actually. I just am not facist and know
>> >> not to dismiss something that might hurt one of my beliefs.
>> >
>> >You are indeed a facist of the worst order. You would impose your beliefs
>> >based on controversial theory on all the world. That, sir is facism.
>
>> I'm no facist, I'm not the one crying out that nothing is proven so my
>> way is right, that would be you. To set in your ways to look at other
>> possibilities. I haven't claimed anything other than observations that
>> need to be looked at. You'd rather dismiss them and unimportant, can't
>> have your beliefs being shaken.
>
>You advocate actions based on your theories which would impact on me and
>my liberties. That makes you the fascist.
Bullshit, you'd have people not speak their mind or not follow ideas that
you didn't feel suit your beliefs. I have no problem with your having
your own ideas if you back them up with real proof. You only have
theories to back you up too but somehow think them more valid and readily
discount opposing theories when both deserve though.
>
>> >
>> >> You are too
>> >> small of a person to do such a thing and are more of a facist than a
>> >> conservative.
>> >
>> >No, sir, I am a conservative who believes firmly that he who governs least
>> >governs best. I also believe that government should stay the hell out of
>> >citizens' lives, livelihood, and pocket.
>
>> I'm sure that you vote republicrat too. You tried to have an authority
>> keep me quiet for speaking my mind. You are a facist.
>
>I never heard of repulicrats. What are they?
The two parties, they're really one in the same and thinking any different
shows that they have you by the balls like they want.
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:07:24 +1000
Bob, that sort of logic reminds me of the gun nut's arguments, you know, the
fact that the US has a very high % of houshold firearm ownership , and that
it also has an extremely high death by firearm rate, but that these two
statistics are not realted!!!!
Your not a member of the NRA as well are you???
<dons asbestos suit>
My $0.02
"Bob Germer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> On 09/18/2000 at 01:48 AM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
>
> > I have proof for the levels of CFC's leveling off, any study on cfc's
> > proves it and lo and behold it coincides with the banning of the said
> > products.
>
> You are a liar. You have some measurements which MAY POSSIBLY indicate
> that. However, only several centuriy's worth of measurement can prove it.
>
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From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:14:59 GMT
On 09/18/2000 at 05:50 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
> >No, you did not say they were theories. You said you had PROOF. You do
> >NOT!
> Yeah I have facts. CO2 is higher than it has been in 600k years. CFC's
> are man made. What theory did I claim to be fact? Didn't think you
> could provide that.
You claim that CFC's are responsible for the rise in CO2 levels. You claim
proof of that. You are lying. You have no proof.
CO2 MAY be higher. That is not fact, it is speculation based on
measurements artic ice which may or may not be reliable. And there is
absolutely NO PROOF that CFC's are responsible if it is in fact higher.
Since there are significantly more trees in the US than 500 years ago,
that may be the reason. Since we have irrigated millions of acres of what
was desert 100 or fewer years ago which are now covered with plant life,
that may be responsible. Since we have reclaimed millions of acres by
dredging and many of those acres are now covered with plant life, that may
be responsible. Since the population of the planet is more than three
times what it was 100 years ago, that may be the reason.
> >I have read those theories as well as equally eminent counter theories
> >which blow them to hell.
> Do enlighten us then. I bet they come from people that support your
> views too right? All I have said is that we are doing several
> verifiable things to the atmosphere. It is easy to measure CO2 and CFC
> levels. Where they are taking us is up for debate. Well it is to those
> that don't have such a facist way of thinking.
And you have NO PROOF that we are doing anything verifiable to the
atmosphere.
You are in favor of banning CFC's, something advocated by large chemical
corporations and fundraising econut groups. I didn't favor it because I
see no proof that it makes a bit of difference because I do not have any
facts to show that they have affected Ozone levels. In fact, recently
published studies refute it. Those studies were not funded by government
or interest groups. They were done by independent university studies.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen)
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Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: 18 Sep 2000 06:27:01 GMT
In article <39c5b330$8$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 09/18/2000 at 05:50 AM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
>
>> >No, you did not say they were theories. You said you had PROOF. You do
>> >NOT!
>
>> Yeah I have facts. CO2 is higher than it has been in 600k years. CFC's
>> are man made. What theory did I claim to be fact? Didn't think you
>> could provide that.
>
>You claim that CFC's are responsible for the rise in CO2 levels. You claim
>proof of that. You are lying. You have no proof.
I never made any such claim, learn to read man. They are independant of
each other. Provide proof of this claim.
>
>CO2 MAY be higher. That is not fact, it is speculation based on
>measurements artic ice which may or may not be reliable. And there is
>absolutely NO PROOF that CFC's are responsible if it is in fact higher.
So why wouldn't they be reliable if they are indepenantly verifiable via
instrument readings, many from the military as a matter of fact. If you
take an ice core that is 30 years old and matches up perfectly with
measurment readings that year and then also matches up with every other
year what do you think is going on?
>
>Since there are significantly more trees in the US than 500 years ago,
>that may be the reason. Since we have irrigated millions of acres of what
>was desert 100 or fewer years ago which are now covered with plant life,
>that may be responsible. Since we have reclaimed millions of acres by
>dredging and many of those acres are now covered with plant life, that may
>be responsible. Since the population of the planet is more than three
>times what it was 100 years ago, that may be the reason.
Yep lost of reasons and we keep records on emissions pretty well too and
they correlate pretty well also.
>
>
>> >I have read those theories as well as equally eminent counter theories
>> >which blow them to hell.
>
>> Do enlighten us then. I bet they come from people that support your
>> views too right? All I have said is that we are doing several
>> verifiable things to the atmosphere. It is easy to measure CO2 and CFC
>> levels. Where they are taking us is up for debate. Well it is to those
>> that don't have such a facist way of thinking.
>
>And you have NO PROOF that we are doing anything verifiable to the
>atmosphere.
Copernicus was a liar.
>
>You are in favor of banning CFC's, something advocated by large chemical
>corporations and fundraising econut groups. I didn't favor it because I
>see no proof that it makes a bit of difference because I do not have any
>facts to show that they have affected Ozone levels. In fact, recently
>published studies refute it. Those studies were not funded by government
>or interest groups. They were done by independent university studies.
When did I say I was in favor of banning CFC's? You're putting words in
my mouth to support your views But you know what Bob, you're right. If I
can't see it now why the fuck should I care? Makes it much easier to live
life like that.... ohh feel the endorphins releasing.... Fuck everybody
in the past that dared to think against the grain. fuck Galileo, fuck
Copernicus, fuck Aristotle, fuck Einstein, fuck Brahe, Fuck Feynman fuck
em all. I like your way of thinking. I don't want to challenge my
position, I accept only what I see here and now.
>
>
>
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From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:32:02 GMT
On 09/18/2000 at 04:07 PM,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Bob, that sort of logic reminds me of the gun nut's arguments, you know,
> the fact that the US has a very high % of houshold firearm ownership ,
> and that it also has an extremely high death by firearm rate, but that
> these two statistics are not realted!!!!
Your logic has a huge flaw. What percentage of those killings are done by
licensed weapons? What percentage of households with guns have murders
committed by said legally owned and registered guns?
Here is something to consider. There are hundreds of thousands of police
officers, sheriffs, constables, court officers, etc. in the United States.
What percentage of them use their weapon to kill someone other than in the
line of duty? It is infintesimal, although I forget the number.
In the township in which I live, there are over 600 people with a license
to carry concealed handguns out of a population of around 9,000. We have
had 2, count them, 2 murders in the past 12 years, both committed by
felons who do not live in the township and who carried out the crime with
a stolen weapon in one case and with an unregistered "Saturday Night
Special" in the other case. And in addition to the concealed weapon
permits, there are hundreds of families who have rifles, shotguns, and
registered handguns.
Conversely, two municipalities within 10 miles, Willingboro and Burlington
City, have far higher percentages of homes with guns. They have had
several murders, an average of more than one a year in a combined
population of around 22,000.
However, only 2 of those crimes were carried out with licensed or
registered weapons. The rest were committed upon gas station attendants,
during a home invasion, fast food personnel, etc. Those were all done with
illegal weapons, weapons stolen during a previous crime, etc.
There were several hundred murders committed with handguns in Philadelphia
last year. However, only 3% of them occurred in the home by family
members. Most were drug trafficing related, Mafia related, or gang
related.
> Your not a member of the NRA as well are you???
I am not and never have been a NRA member. I have not had a weapon since
my discharge from the service 40 years ago.
However, I do believe that if we outlawed guns, only outlaws would have
guns. We do not need more laws. We need better and consistent law
enforcement of our existing laws.
I do not hunt and would not kill any creature unless I intended to eat it.
Frankly, I find many things more amusing that tramping through the woods
or fields looking for something to shoot at. Nor do I fish. I tried it a
couple of times and found it boring as hell. I much prefer making holes in
the sky, chasing a balleta ball around a couple of hundred acres of grass,
sand, and water, watching a ball game, etc.
But I have no right to tell you or anyone else he or she shouldn't fish,
hunt, go target shooting, etc.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.ms.windows.advocacy,comp.ms.windows-nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie!
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 01:51:25 -0500
"OSguy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > The IDE card probably has BIOS hooks to install itself into DOS (int
13h).
> > Since Windows ME doesn't use the BIOS to control hardware, it needs to
have
> > a specific protected mode driver to access the hardware. This is the
same
> > as NT as well.
> >
> > You are implying way too much. Since the IDE controller was built to
wedge
> > itself into DOS, the fact that it doesn't wedge itself into Windows (if
that
> > were even possible) says nothing about Windows. DOS doesn't have
drivers
> > for the card. The card simply plays bios tricks to pretend that it's a
> > native device.
>
> Oh gee, now we've gone from just needing DOS drivers to now the card
wedges
> itself into the bios. If that was the case, I'm sure WinME would have
seen it
> as an active ide port just like it identifies the other two ide ports on
my
> machine (except that WinME probably isn't programmed to look beyond 2 ide
> ports). Therefore it is Windows fault for not seeing the card. However,
the
Take a look at your device manager. You'll see that Windows loads 32 bit
protected mode drivers even for the built-in IDE ports. I'll say it again.
Win ME doesn't use the BIOS for drive access, thus it *MUST* know how to
physically access the hardware (which is different for every card). It
doesn't matter if Win ME can detect the card or not, it doesn't know how to
USE the card. (I think you'll find that Win ME *DOES* detect the card, but
since it doesn't have 32 bit drivers for it, cannot use it).
> card I had does not have bios routines, it relies on drivers. Check out
an old
> FC040 card .... BTW a common card used with tape backups. It is still
Windows
> fault for not seeing a very common ide card that is not yet obsoleted (but
> getting close to obsolescence).
Win ME is designed primarily for new hardware. You might find additional
drivers in the support directory on the CD for what MS calls "obsolete"
devices.
> I also know that if the tables were turned and you were installing Linux,
you'd
> be screaming bloody murder if Linux didn't recognize your CD or a 3rd ide
port
> card. Should I say it's not Linux's fault as well since it uses its own
bios
> disregarding whatever bios is on the motherboard?
No, I know how OS's work. For a guy with the nym "OSGuy" you should as
well. Unsupported hardware goes with the territory. There will *ALWAYS* be
hardware that isn't supported out of the box.
> Enough now!....I have the system running fully....13 hours after
installation.
> That sucks! Especially since it has taken me a maximum of 3 hours to
bring a
> Linux box fully up from installation in the past.
Did you try installing Linux on that machine? Did *IT* detect all the
hardware?
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From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:35:30 GMT
On 09/18/2000 at 05:41 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
> And again your ideas are supported by those you support? What is your
> point Bob?
My point is that you and your ilk are pointy headed, Chicken Little's
claiming the sky is falling.
You are the type who only sees a half full glass as half empty and worry
about the missing half while you die of thirst.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen)
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Subject: Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools)
Date: 18 Sep 2000 06:38:18 GMT
In article <39c5b800$10$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 09/18/2000 at 05:41 AM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
>
>
>> And again your ideas are supported by those you support? What is your
>> point Bob?
>
>My point is that you and your ilk are pointy headed, Chicken Little's
>claiming the sky is falling.
Except I didn't do that. I pointed to some facts and didn't make claims
as fact. CFC's are man made and the CO2 level is verifiably higher than
it has been in 600k years.
>
>You are the type who only sees a half full glass as half empty and worry
>about the missing half while you die of thirst.
No that would be you, only believing that things could possibly be one
way. You work to discredit that which you don't believe, whether or not
it has a real basis.
>
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie!
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:13:00 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> The IDE card probably has BIOS hooks to install itself into DOS (int 13h).
> Since Windows ME doesn't use the BIOS to control hardware, it needs to
have
> a specific protected mode driver to access the hardware. This is the same
> as NT as well.
>
> You are implying way too much. Since the IDE controller was built to
wedge
> itself into DOS, the fact that it doesn't wedge itself into Windows (if
that
> were even possible) says nothing about Windows. DOS doesn't have drivers
> for the card. The card simply plays bios tricks to pretend that it's a
> native device.
Then how can you explain Linux using eight IDE harddrives or other IDE
devices on a computer with a BIOS that only knows about two drives? Linux
can handle up to sixteen harddrives on one computer. What is the Windows ME
upper limit for the same situation?
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Subject: Re: Never tell me again that Windows is easy to install!!! It's a lie!
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:58:07 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Nigel Feltham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> They don't bitch about legacy support in itself being gone, they complain
> about
> the support for their hardware being removed - if working windows drivers
> were
> available for that hardware then there would be no problem (some legacy
> hardware
> will work in windows NT using windows drivers but the same hardware has no
> win9x driver so is now broken under win-me).
>
> One thing that I hate is the inability to make a bootable system floppy
> under win-me,
> what happens when the sytem decides it won't boot and the computer is too
> new to
> have a win9x boot disk available (or if the user needs to flash upgrade
> current hardware
> and the flash utility states that it won't work under the windows gui)?
If someone needs dos, they could try Free Dos.
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From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:42:59 GMT
On 09/18/2000 at 05:54 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
> See your showing your bias. Have I mentioned the ozone hole once? You
> mentioned Copernicus being persecuted and yet you'd do the same for
> people looking for answers as to what is happening with out world
> today.
Ah, but Copernicus PROVED his theory by verifiable, repeatable
measurements which eliminated all other possibilities. Einstein's theories
have been proven by repeatable experiments which preclude any alternate
possibilities.
But until the econuts PROVE their theories about CFC's, they are junk
scientists and not to be trusted. And until the theories are PROVEN, I
refuse to sanction actions based thereupon.
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From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Global warming. (was Public v. Private Schools)
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:49:56 GMT
On 09/18/2000 at 05:44 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
> Did you read what I wrote? I don't think you did. We have more
> vegitation because we plant it. We also fight fires. High CO2 doesn't
> cause more plant life. Did you read the part about starting an ice age?
> Ice sheets have come halfway down Canada in a decade because the deep
> water formation stopped.
Talk about junk science.
First of all, it was pointed out that we do not have high CO2 levels in
North America, we have a deficit. Deficit - a lack, a shortage, below
normal levels.
Secondly, please do tell us how water is formed deep within the earth.
Please, the scientific world is waiting for this answer. Just what
chemicals are forming H2O?
Ice sheets have come halfway down Canada in a decade? Which decade of
which century. I have traveled the Alcan highway from Vancover to Alaska
within the past year and a half. I saw no ice sheets. I have flown from
Montreal to Hudson's Bay in the past 4 months. I saw no ice sheets. I'm
sure that my airplane's floats would be surprised to find out they didn't
throw up rooster tails of water but glacial ice during landings and
takeoffs.
And I saw vegetation all over Alaska which is NORTH of Canada. I didn't
know plants and animals thrived on ice sheets.
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From: Jason Bowen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 00:48:55 -0600
Bob Germer wrote:
> On 09/18/2000 at 05:54 AM,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
>
> > See your showing your bias. Have I mentioned the ozone hole once? You
> > mentioned Copernicus being persecuted and yet you'd do the same for
> > people looking for answers as to what is happening with out world
> > today.
>
> Ah, but Copernicus PROVED his theory by verifiable, repeatable
> measurements which eliminated all other possibilities. Einstein's theories
> have been proven by repeatable experiments which preclude any alternate
> possibilities.
>
> But until the econuts PROVE their theories about CFC's, they are junk
> scientists and not to be trusted. And until the theories are PROVEN, I
> refuse to sanction actions based thereupon.
>
Oh man this is rich. So unitl it is verifiable you will call it a lie and not support
looking
into it? You would've been right their lynching Copernicus. What an asshole.
>
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> Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 14
> MR/2 Ice 2.20 Registration Number 67
> Finishing in 2nd place makes you first loser
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:50:35 GMT
On 09/18/2000 at 05:47 AM,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen) said:
> I'm saying here are some ideas to think about and you'd rather just
> think you own way. Your the asshole. Who is wanting to control?
> You're fucking scared of thinking that maybe something might be
> different.
Anyone who thinks half of Canada is covered by ice sheets is the asshole!
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 14
MR/2 Ice 2.20 Registration Number 67
Finishing in 2nd place makes you first loser
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